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    @Margin_Walker Yes, that's what I thought, but why doesn't he select a talented rookie instead of Heinz, who is 30? Would be a huge learning experience for a young talent.

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    @Stargazer

    Can't really think of an obvious one as what little depth there is at 9 (along with full back, it's the weakest position depth wise for England) is stacked in the top four clubs.

    Maunder for Exeter is the 20 year old that has been selected for the Argentina tour but is unavailable here.

    To be fair to Heinz, he's not great but is keeping B&I Lion Laidlaw out of the Gloucester side.

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    @mariner4life said in June Internationals:

    @Stargazer you seem to have highlighted an Irishman by mistake...

    Irish? Irish?!! He's not qualified for selection until October.

    I'm sure he could play the Baa-baas this weekend instead of Connacht's playoff semifinal.....

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    What are the 2 or 3 halfbacks in the England u20 JWC squad doing at the moment?

    A few weeks until the tournament, couldn't they fling some passes in the training camp for Eddie.

    Bizarre.

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    @Rapido I assume that's tongue in cheek? The England U20s play their first game of the JWC in 2 weeks (Wed 31 May, against Samoa).

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    Ireland squad for USA/Japan 3-test tour announced by Schmidt today.
    Old hands with quite a few new heads to go with the 20 new caps since Jan 2016. Schmidt determined to build a deeper squad for Japan 2019. One more lock to be added after this coming weekend's semifinals.

    Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 67 caps
    Finlay Bealham (Buccaneers/Connacht) 6 caps
    Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster) 17 caps
    Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster)*
    John Ryan (Cork Constitution/Munster) 6 caps

    James Tracy (UCD/Leinster) 2 caps
    Dave Heffernan (Connacht/Buccaneers)*
    Niall Scannell (Dolphin/Munster) 4 caps

    James Ryan (UCD/Leinster)*
    Kieran Treadwell (Ballymena/Ulster)*
    Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 47 caps

    Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster) 1 cap
    Dan Leavy (UCD/Leinster) 2 caps
    Tommy O'Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster) 12 caps
    Jack O'Donoghue (UL Bohemians/Munster) 1 cap
    Rhys Ruddock (St Mary's College/Leinster) 13 caps
    Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 7 caps

    John Cooney (Connacht)*
    Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster) 1 cap
    Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht) 13 caps

    Joey Carbery (Clontarf/Leinster) 3 caps
    Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster) 23 caps

    Luke Marshall (Ballymena/Ulster) 9 caps
    Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 8 caps
    Rory Scannell (Dolphin/Munster)*

    Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 1 cap
    Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 59 caps
    Tiernan O'Halloran (Buccaneers/Connacht) 3 caps
    Rory O'Loughlin (Old Belvedere/Leinster)*
    Jacob Stockdale (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)*
    Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster) 33 caps

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    @Pot-Hale Interesting. James Ryan hasn't even played for Leinster yet!

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    @wowrp1 said in June Internationals:

    @Pot-Hale Interesting. James Ryan hasn't even played for Leinster yet!

    Nope - mainly due to injury however. But his performance in the U20 last year, and in training has put him high on the prospect list. We need more depth and youth in lock stocks so himself and Treadwell who's also played well with Ulster look promising.

    A lot of people, including myself, surprised at Adam Byrne's exclusion - I thought he'd been excellent on the wing for Leinster this season. However, the 8 new caps alongside a good few raw internationals is going to push the coaching team as much as the players to get results.

    The IRFU is also using the summer tour to develop Irish coaches with Ronan O'Gara, Girvan Dempsey and Felix Jones being involved for one each of the three tests.

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    Heinz and Woodwood drop out of the 27 man England squad for the baa baas game as players from the losing AP semifinalists are made available (Wigglesworth and Lozowski)

    Panic over lads

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    @Stargazer said in June Internationals:

    The Barbarians squad to take on England and Ulster is taking shape.

    At this stage, the following players have been selected:

    Backs:
    Bundee Aki (Connacht), Adam Ashley-Cooper (Bordeaux Begles & Australia), Yann David (Toulouse and France), Will Genia (Stade Francais & Australia), Maxime Medard (Toulouse & France), Ruan Pienaar (Ulster & South Africa), Charles Piutau (Ulster & New Zealand).

    Forwards:
    Patricio Albacete (Toulouse & Argentina), Steffon Armitage (Pau & England), Thierry Dusautoir (Toulouse & France), Corey Flynn (Glasgow Warriors & New Zealand), Facundo Isa (Lyon & Argentina), Census Johnston (Toulouse & Samoa), Joe Tekori (Toulouse & Samoa), Jeremy Thrush (Gloucester & New Zealand).

    Obviously, Pienaar and Piutau will only be available for the game v England and will play for Ulster against the Baabaas.

    The rumour is that they are chasing Dan Carter for the 10 jersey, but no news on that front yet.

    Update:
    The Barbarians have confirmed their 27-strong tour squad for the games against England on May 28 and Ulster on June 1

    Backs: Horacio Agulla (Castres & Argentina), Adam Ashley-Cooper (Bordeaux Begles & Australia), Yann David (Toulouse and France), Kahn Fotuali’i (Bath Rugby & Samoa), Robbie Freuan (Bath Rugby), Rory Kockott (Castres & France), Ian Madigan (Bordeaux Begles & Ireland), Timoci Nagusa (Montpellier & Fiji), Waisea Nayacalavu (Stade Francais & Fiji), Ruan Pienaar (Ulster & South Africa), David Smith (Castres), Frans Steyn (Montpellier & South Africa).

    Forwards: Patricio Albacete (Toulouse & Argentina), Steffon Armitage (Pau & England), Schalk Brits (Saracens & South Africa), Thierry Dusautoir (Toulouse & France), Corey Flynn (Star RFC & New Zealand), Ben Franks (London Irish & New Zealand), Gillian Galan (Toulouse), Richard Hibbard (Gloucester & Wales), Facundo Isa (Lyon & Argentina), Census Johnston (Toulouse & Samoa), Mikheil Nariashvili (Montpellier & Georgia), WP Nel (Edinburgh & Scotland), Mike Ross (Leinster & Ireland), Joe Tekori (Toulouse & Samoa), Jeremy Thrush (Gloucester & New Zealand).

    Bundee Aki is no longer available due to injury.

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    England team to play the Barbarians:

    15 Mike Brown (Harlequins, 60 caps)
    14 Nathan Earle (Saracens, uncapped)
    13 Sam James (Sale Sharks, uncapped)
    12 Alex Lozowski (Saracens, uncapped)
    11 Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, 25 caps)
    10 George Ford (Bath Rugby, 35 caps)
    9 Danny Care (Harlequins, 71 caps)
    1 Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 1 cap)
    2 Jack Singleton (Worcester Warriors, uncapped)
    3 Will Collier (Harlequins, uncapped)
    4 Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, 3 caps)
    5 Nick Isiekwe (Saracens, uncapped)
    6 Chris Robshaw (Harlequins, 55 caps)
    7 Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
    8 Josh Beaumont (Sale Sharks, uncapped)

    Reserves:
    16 George McGuigan (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
    17 Ross Harrison (Sale Sharks, uncapped)
    18 Jamal Ford-Robinson (Bristol Rugby, uncapped)
    19 Tom Ellis (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
    20 Ben Curry (Sale Sharks, uncapped)
    21 Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons, uncapped)
    22 Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens, 27 caps)
    23 Mike Haley (Sale Sharks, uncapped)

    http://www.englandrugby.com/news/england-name-side-face-the-barbarians/

    Barbarians squad to take on England:

    15 Alex Goode (Saracens & England) 21 caps
    14 Timoci Nagusa (Montpellier & Fiji) 24
    13 Yann David (Toulouse & France) 4
    12 Frans Steyn (Montpellier & South Africa) 53
    11 Adam Ashley-Cooper (Bordeaux-Begles & Australia) 116
    10 Ian Madigan (Bordeaux-Begles & Ireland) 30
    9 Kahn Fotuali’i (Bath Rugby & Samoa) 31
    1 Mikheil Nariashvili (Montpellier & Georgia) 41
    2 Richard Hibbard (Gloucester & Wales) 41
    3 Census Johnston (Toulouse & Samoa) 59
    4 Patricio Albacete (Toulouse & Argentina) 57
    5 Jeremy Thrush (Gloucester & New Zealand)12
    6 Thierry Dusautoir (Toulouse & France, captain) 80
    7 Steffon Armitage (Pau & England) 5
    8 Facundo Isa (Lyon & Argentina) 25

    Replacements
    16 Schalk Brits (Saracens & South Africa) 10
    17 Ben Franks (London Irish & New Zealand) 47
    18 WP Nel (Edinburgh & Scotland) 15
    19 Joe Tekori (Toulouse & Samoa) 34
    20 Gillian Galan (Toulouse)
    21 Ruan Pienaar (Ulster & South Africa) 88
    22 Robbie Fruean (Bath Rugby)
    23 Horacio Agulla (Castres & Argentina) 63

    totallyadmin  /  May 24, 2017

    Goode and Armitage lining up against England - Barbarians

    Goode and Armitage lining up against England - Barbarians

    England’s Alex Goode and Steffon Armitage are in the Barbarians starting line-up facing their national side at Twickenham on Sunday, May 28.   The Saracens full back and Pau flanker – five European Cup titles between them – are the English element in Vern Cotter’s cosmopolitan invitation outfit for...

    This game is not in the Sky Sport TV schedule, so it looks like we won't be able to watch this game on tv in NZ. 😞 👎🏽

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    Teams don't excite much do they?

    Pretty average opposition to earn your first England cap against.

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    @Crucial Because some European teams have not finished their season yet, the Baabaas missed out on some of the best players like Dan Carter (they had hoped to have him the squad), but there are still several interesting players. I like seeing those Kiwis there, Dusautoir, Isa, Ashley-Cooper and Fotuali'i, for example. I do tend to prefer the Baabaas teams for the November games though, because there are more SH players in it who are unavailable in May/June due to Super Rugby. I hope Vern Cotter will continue the tradition of including some non-traditional moves in the game plan to provide extra entertainment. There's enough quality in the Baabaas squad to make it difficult for this under-strength England squad.

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    Hugely understrength England 15, even by the standards of these end of season baa baas games. Includes a 19 yo lock with two AP appearances starting and an 18yo flanker in the bench. Plenty more players who are unlikely to pick up a full cap, so a win would be a big ask.

    Would be surprised if Franks made it as he was sent off for punching in the Championship (2nd tier) final last night. Unless the citing process doesn't have time to run its course by the weekend.

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    I thought the baabaas looked pretty useful!

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    It doesn't look like the Barbarians games will be televised in NZ, but there will be livestreams. I won't post links to illegal streams in this thread, if only because they might be taken down more quickly.

    Anyway, I've started adding channels to the schedule in the first post. If I find links to official streams, I'll add them, too. This might be very close to kick-off time. If you find official streams, please, post the links in this thread and I'll add them to the schedule.

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    Baabaas had almost all possession in the first 15 minutes, but it's Nathan Earle scoring the first try for England. The try is converted: 7-0 England.

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    13-0 to England at half time. Baabaas had a few good chances, but couldn't convert them into points. The score doesn't completely reflect the game. The Baabaas made some errors that can be blamed on the squad being together for only a short time.

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    After a good break from Fruean, it's Ashley-Cooper who scores the first try for the Baabaas, converted by Madigan: 13-7 England.

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    Pathetic refereeing in this game. Ref has been quite condescending all game and now he sends Baabaas prop Nariashvili to the bin. No idea what for, but it can't have been anything serious. Something went wrong in the scrum. Ref is clearly forgetting what kind of game this is.

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