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    @cgrant

    he did too - came on for the last five minutes.

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    @number-10 said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

    @rapido said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

    @mikedogz said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

    Who are sons of former Pro players?

    Hoskins Sotutu
    Salyn Tonu'u?
    Rupena Parkinson?

    I think I remember a Van Der Heyden for BoP in late 80s / early 90s. Played No8 i think, or may have been a different dutch sounding name?

    (not pro then though .......)

    I think you're thinking of Steve van der Leeden who was number eight for BOP 1989-1990.
    His father Ernest was fullback for BOP 1968.

    That's the one.

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    Ben Wylie  /  Oct 31, 2017

    New Zealand U20: 2018 development squad

    New Zealand U20: 2018 development squad

    Craig Philpott has named his first wider development squad for the 2018 New Zealand U20 side – who will be looking to capture their third U20 title in four years next summer – ahead of …

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    @mikedogz said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

    Who are sons of former Pro players?

    Hoskins Sotutu
    Salyn Tonu'u?
    Rupena Parkinson?

    Is Will Tremain son of 90s HB player (Simon?) who was the son of Kel?

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    Is grandson of Kel, not sure which of Kel's sons is the father.

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    🤔

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/31775/craig-philpott-appointed-to-expanded-under-20-coaching-role

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    Players selected for the first NZ U20 trial camp in Palmerston-North of the year (starting 8 March 2018)

    The camp begins on Thursday with a tight five clinic led by All Blacks scrum guru Mike Cron, before all players assemble for a five-day programme. Two trial teams will be selected to play Hurricanes Development and a Wellington XV on Saturday 10 March.
    
    Philpott said this camp is an important component in building the squad.
    
    “We had these players in camp in December for some testing and to set expectations and goals. This week we get to see how they have progressed over the summer months and really start building towards June."
    
    The squad features several players who had been involved in the 2017 wider squad, while six players have been recognised for their performances in the New Zealand Schools’ campaign late last year.
    

    Selected players:

    Auckland (6): John Akau'ola-Laula, Rob Cobb, Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa, Ben Sa'u, Harry Plummer, Tanielu Tele'a
    Bay of Plenty (5): Joe Johnson, Tevita Mafileo, Jeriah Mua, Stan van den Hoven, Kaleb Trask
    Canterbury (5): Tom Christie, Will Tucker, Raymond Nu'u, Rameka Poihipi, Ngane Punivai
    Counties Manukau (1): Suetena Asomua
    Hawkes Bay (1): Devan Flanders
    Manawatu (4): Sione Asi, Brayden Iose, Matene Ruawai, Ueta Tufuga
    Northland (1): Scott Gregory
    Otago (2): Ricky Jackson, Slade McDowall
    Southland (2): Flynn Thomas, Jay Renton
    Taranaki (4): Tom Florence, Bradley Slater, Tupou Vaa'i, Ciarahn Matoe
    Ta$man (6): Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Sam Moli, Leicester Faingaanuku, Jack Grooby, Rupena Parkinson, Jamie Spowart
    Waikato (4): Josh Kaho, Xavier Roe, Bailyn Sullivan, Quinn Tupaea
    Wellington (5): Xavier Numia, Taine Plumtree, Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, Carlos Price, Billy Proctor

    Not considered due to Super Rugby or Sevens commitments

    Caleb Clarke (Blues)
    Will Jordan (Crusaders)
    Vilimoni Koroi (All Blacks Sevens)

    Not considered due to injury

    Hawke's Bay (3): Jacob Devery, Tim Farrell, Will Tremain
    Waikato (1): Laghlan McWhannell
    Bay of Plenty (1): Ajay Mua
    Auckland (3): Hoskins Sotutu, Cameron Suafoa, Sione Talitui
    Waikato (1): Sheldon Tovio

    A further camp for the New Zealand Under 20 squad will be held in April, before taking part in the Oceania Tournament on the Gold Coast in April and May. A squad of 28 will be selected to go to the Under 20 World Championship in France from 25 May – 18 June 2017.
    

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/32115/under-20-hopefuls-in-final-push-for-world-cup-squad-selection

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    These squads are always interesting to see where some schoolboy stars end up. A few have moved to other provinces.

    I wonder how old Charles Alaimalo is? He might still be a year away from being considered for the U20s.

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    @bovidae said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

    These squads are always interesting to see where some schoolboy stars end up. A few have moved to other provinces.

    I wonder how old Charles Alaimalo is? He might still be a year away from being considered for the U20s.

    Is there a minimum age? There are at least 3 Hawke's Bay players, who were in NZ schools, but missing in the list to my surprise.

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    How old is Flanders?

    IIRC they don’t tend to select many 18 yr olds, but if you good enough you are old enough.

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    @bovidae said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

    @stargazer

    How old is Flanders?

    IIRC they don’t tend to select many 18 yr olds, but if you good enough you are old enough.

    He was in NZ Secondary Schools last year so 18/19 I would assume?

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    @nepia said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

    @bovidae said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

    @stargazer

    How old is Flanders?

    IIRC they don’t tend to select many 18 yr olds, but if you good enough you are old enough.

    He was in NZ Secondary Schools last year so 18/19 I would assume?

    Flanders is 19 (DOB 04/02/1999). Lincoln McClutchie is 18 (DOB 04/12/1999).

    I wonder whether there is a cut-off date somewhere in the year? Don't know the DOB of Fakatava and Toala ...

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    Not too many of the NZ schools players are in that player list to attend the U20 camp.

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    @bovidae Yeah, I wonder whether - except for the absolute best players from NZ Schools of the previous year - they are first expected to play the U19 tournament and then will be considered a year later.

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    @stargazer said in 2018 New Zealand U20s:

    @bovidae Yeah, I wonder whether - except for the absolute best players from NZ Schools of the previous year - they are first expected to play the U19 tournament and then will be considered a year later.

    Yep that's right. Very rare for a NZ Schools player from the previous year make the NZ U20s the next year. Recent exceptions I can think of - 2017 Caleb Clarke, 2016 Dalton Papali'i, Peter Umaga Jensen, Asafo Aumua, Alex Fidow - I'm sure there have been a few others?
    Toala went to the Dec camp and was a bit off the pace fitness wise so that maybe might've counted against him? McLutchie will have to bide his time with both Harry Plummer and Ciarahn Matoe in there. Same with Fakatava as there is good depth at halfback - Carlos Price, Xavier Roe, Jay Renton. I'd say Flanders and Mua (Jeriah) would have been brought in for the selectors to have a look with the likes of Mua (AJ), Sotutu and Sione Talitui (Havili) all injured?

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    Cullen grace has been killing it at the crusaders. Played for the knights last week. Could be a Bolter for mitre 10 Cup

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    Auckland’s next generation to suit up in black for Oceania tournament

    Auckland’s next generation to suit up in black for Oceania tournament

    The first New Zealand Under 20 team of 2018 has been named to play in the Oceania tournament on the Gold Coast at the...

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    Under 20 squad named for Oceania Rugby Championship

    Forwards: <

    John Akau'ola-Laula - Auckland
    Suetena Asomua - Counties Manukau
    Tom Christie (Captain) - Canterbury
    Rob Cobb - Auckland
    Devan Flanders - Hawke's Bay
    Tom Florence - Taranaki
    Ricky Jackson - Otago
    Tevita Mafileo - Bay of Plenty
    Laghlan McWhannell - Waikato
    Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa - Auckland
    Bradley Slater - Taranaki
    Hoskins Sotutu - Auckland
    Flynn Thomas - Southland
    Will Tucker - Canterbury
    Kaliopasi Uluilakepa - Wellington

    Backs:
    Leicester Faingaanuku - Ta$man
    Will Jordan - Ta$man
    Vilimoni Koroi - Otago
    Ciarahn Matoe - Taranaki
    Harry Plummer - Auckland
    Carlos Price - Wellington
    Billy Proctor - Wellington
    Ngane Punivai - Canterbury
    Jay Renton - Southland
    Xavier Roe - Waikato
    Bailyn Sullivan - Waikato
    Tanielu Tele'a - Auckland
    Kaleb Trask - Bay of Plenty

    2- 3 players to be named

    Players not considered due to Super Rugby commitments

    Caleb Clarke - Blues

    Players not considered due to injury

    Tim Farrell - Hawke's Bay
    Brayden Iose - Manawatu
    Ajay Mua - Bay of Plenty
    Xavier Numia - Wellington
    Cameron Suafoa - Auckland
    Sheldon Tovio - Waikato

    Tevita Mafileo is Sione Mafileo's younger brother, as Billy Proctor is Mike Proctor's.

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    @tim It's a pity that Jeriah Mua didn't make it, but I assume that his situation is similar to that of a lot of last year's Hastings Boys players who are missing from the squad and that he'll also be eligible next year. Only one of them made it, Devan Flanders.

    Of the 3 Hawke's Bay players that missed out, I feel most sorry for Tim Farrell, who's one of the most talented NZ props in this age group. Got injured during last year's JWC, and now again a serious injury. Jacob Devery and Will Tremain also injured, although not mentioned.

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    Interesting to see Koroi there.

    Fitness permitting he will play

    Comm Games 7s (mid April)
    Oceania U20s (late April early May)
    World U20s (late May)
    World Cup 7s in San Francisco (July)

    Plus who knows if he fits any World 7s Series round into the above calendar.

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