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  • PNP Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3350

    I created a little spreadsheet that pulls data from superxv and like to open it up after each round. thought I'd share some of it:

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    NZ conference by far the most successful, with SA and Aus on par if you disregard the Sunwolves/Jaguares. Strangely Aus ahead of SA on head to head, but fall short against NZ comp. Begs the question as to why they cannot win a game vs NZ since they seem to be on par with the SA teams.

    Rugby is a funny game.

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    #3351

    Fuck the press are muppets, it's impossible for the canes and Saders to meet in the final, they'll be ranked first and fourth (unless we have many massive major upsets) so will send up in the semis together, if they both win their quarters. Makes you realise how much bollox it published under the heading of news

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/103854816/phil-gifford-crusaders-and-hurricanes-on-a-fasttrack-to-super-rugby-final

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to Machpants on last edited by Stargazer
    #3352

    @machpants I think it's because SANZAAR has made some unexplained changes.

    This is from the SANZAAR website:

    2017 Finals draw:
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    2018 Finals draw:
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    Changes:

    QF1: 1 v 8 in 2017, this year: 1 v 8
    QF2: 2 v 7 in 2017, this year: 4 v 5
    QF3: 3 v 6 in 2017, this year: 2 v 7
    QF4: 4 v 5 in 2017, this year: 3 v 6

    And semis:

    SF1: Winner QF1 v Winner QF4 in 2017, this year: Winner QF1 v Winner QF2
    SF2: Winner QF2 v Winner QF3 in 2017, this year: Winner QF3 v Winner QF4

    .

    If they hadn't changed a thing, the result would have been the same (a possible Canes v Saders SF - not Final), but I can see how these changes may confuse people.

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    #3353

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    this year: Winner QF1 v Winner QF2

    So Saders (assuming they beat Jags) vs Canes (assuming they beat Landers)

    They've just renumbered them, not changed the format, I think? Shouldn't really confuse someone that much!

    But good old SANZAAR a change is as good as a rest! Even if for no reason.

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    replied to Machpants on last edited by
    #3354

    @machpants said in Super Rugby News:

    They've just renumbered them, not changed the format, I think? Shouldn't really confuse someone that much!

    Yep - exactly - the same format after Q-Finalists are decided, just given the QFs different numbers/names.
    Coz... somebody's "simple friend" got confused by it before?

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    #3355

    The big change is only in deciding position 4 due to one less conference. It means that positions 4-8 are now on table points.
    I don't get why they didn't rank 1-3 on table points. You still get a 1-3 ranking on conference win irrespective of how shit the conference was.
    Under my tweak we would currently see

    1 Crusaders v 8 Jaguares
    4 Tahds v 5 Highlanders
    2 Canes v 7 Rebels
    3 Lions v 6 Chiefs

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    #3356

    Aren't the top conferences teams ranked 1,2 and 3 ?
    So it could be :

    1 Crusaders vs 8 Jaguares / Sharks
    4 Canes vs 5 Highlanders
    2 Lions vs 7 Rebels
    3 Tahs vs 6 Chiefs

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    replied to cgrant on last edited by Crucial
    #3357

    @cgrant said in Super Rugby News:

    Aren't the top conferences teams ranked 1,2 and 3 ?
    So it could be :

    1 Crusaders vs 8 Jaguares / Sharks
    4 Canes vs 5 Highlanders
    2 Lions vs 7 Rebels
    3 Tahs vs 6 Chiefs

    As above. That is the current situation.
    My way is to still give the conference winner a home semi but rank in order of table points.

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    #3358

    Unfortunately, this won't happen.

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    #3359

    Is this the place where we get together to laugh at the Reds?

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #3360

    @mariner4life and applaud the Sunwolves.

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    @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

    @mariner4life and applaud the Sunwolves.

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    #3362

    Interesting:

    Revealed: NZ Govt's secret plan to set up Pacific Islands Super Rugby team

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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #3363

    @stargazer I think if they can find someone willing to pour money into the team and not care about losing cash, it will work.

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #3364

    @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:

    @stargazer I think if they can find someone willing to pour money into the team and not care about having it pinched, it will work.

    Fixed

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    #3365

    So Ben O'Keeffe is the ref for Canes v Reds this weekend.

    The joke that is SANZAAR continues.

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #3366

    @kiwimurph said in Super Rugby News:

    So Ben O'Keeffe is the ref for Canes v Reds this weekend.

    The joke that is SANZAAR continues.

    And the Chiefs get Fraser 3 weeks in a row.

    Hometown for the Blues-Crusaders game - put that win in the bank!

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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by PN
    #3367

    @bovidae sanzar have activated a doomsday device. Pitting two opposite forces together, a Blues victory vs Home game for the blues with hometown reffing it.

    Load up with canned beans boys

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #3368

    @kiwimurph what have I missed... Why's this a joke?

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    replied to Bones on last edited by Stargazer
    #3369

    @bones Not sure whether that's @KiwiMurph's point, but it seems some people want O'Keefe to be penalised for all refereeing mistakes made in the Crusaders v Waratahs game, by not getting to officiate a game this weekend. Not sure why, as IMO the whole refereeing team (particularly the TMO) made mistakes. SANZAAR doesn't have the luxury to suspend them all though. Maybe it's useful to note that Jamie Nutbrown (AR in that game) and TMO Aaron Paterson have not been appointed for any of this week's games.

    Edit: I should add that O'Keefe is a Wellingtonian. So appearance of neutrality is even weaker than last week. If he makes one mistake, the whole of Australia will start yelling about cheating again.

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