NPC - news, injuries etc
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@chris-b said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@chris-b I have no dislike of him. Where do you get that from. What a nonsense.
Your multiple posts calling him a dick !
@stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@chris-b You must confuse me with someone else. I've never called him a dick. He was a good SR player.
It's somewhere inbetween "multiple" and "never"....
@stargazer said in Waikato v Ta$man:
Was just about to write how disappointing James Lowe has been during this game and then he gets a yellow for being a dick. Well, officially it was for a deliberate knock-down, but he's been annoying all game.
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/179163
Happy to help.
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@stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@smudge Haha, okay, but I'm sure he fully deserved it (although I can't remember this game)! :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye: Funny that you felt the need to search for it though ..
Took me 30 seconds. If it'd taken a minute, I'd have given up...
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Wellington Lions 2018 Mitre 10 Cup squad:
Hookers
Leni Apisai (Northern United)
Asafo Aumua (Avalon)
Dane Coles (Poneke)
James O'Reilly (Hutt Old Boys Marist)Props
Tolu Fahamokioa (Tawa)
Alex Fidow (Oriental-Rongotai)
Joel Hintz (Old Boys University)
Xavier Numia (Oriental-Rongotai)
Jeff Toomaga-Allen (Marist St Pats)
Tietie Tuimauga (Johnsonville)Locks
James Blackwell (Petone)
Sam Lousi (Marist St Pats)
Will Mangos (Old Boys University)
Isaia Walker-Leawere (Poneke)Loose forwards
Teariki Ben-Nicholas (Old Boys University)
Vaea Fifita (Wellington)
Greg Foe (Poneke)
Mateaki Kafatolu (Petone)
Du'Plessis Kirifi (Northern United)
Ardie Savea (Oriental-Rongotai)
Galu Taufale (Poneke)
Thomas Waldrom (Avalon)Halfbacks
Kemara Hauiti-Parapara (Tawa)
TJ Perenara (Northern United)
Carlos Price (Petone)
Sheridan Rangihuna (Hutt Old Boys Marist)First five
Jackson Garden-Bachop (Northern United)
Pakai Turia (Poneke)
TJ Va'a (Wainuiomata)Midfield
Wes Goosen (Old Boys University)
Matt Proctor (Oriental-Rongotai)
Billy Proctor (Marist St Pats)
Thomas Umaga-Jensen (Wainuiomata)
Peter Umaga-Jensen (Wainuiomata)Outside backs
Losi Filipo (Petone)
Ben Lam (Tawa)
Trent Renata (Oriental-Rongotai)
Malo Tuitama (Oriental-Rongotai)Wider training group
Isaia Petelo (Marist St Pats)
Dale Sabbagh (Old Boys University)
Ollie Sapford (Wellington)
Pasi Uluilakepa (Petone)
Alexander Barendregt (Old Boys University)Mat Proctor is the new captain.
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@stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@chris-b Yes, Mo'unga scored 25 points (a new record for points scored in a final). I think a lot of teams will be happy he's in the ABs now. He was a pain in the ass for every opponent. Canterbury will also miss someone like Funnell, who's out for the season.
I think Ta$man will have a good chance against Canterbury and in the comp, generally; they have seriously good looking squad.
Btw, James Lowe didn't have much impact on Ta$man's performance last year, did he? Injured most of the time? Unless you mean "impact by absence".
Except for Wellington. unless my memory is going he was poor in this match with JGB easily outplaying him.
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I want to see Goosen at 2nd and Proctor outside him too see how it goes. But it will be a competitive midfield battle to see who starts at 2nd (Proctor as captain will be the main starter at center)
Lam and Ranata will likely start with maybe Filipo. With JGB and Va'a options at first. I hope to see Price have a run at HB maybe initially as a replacement
How would Fidow go as a LH with Jeff Toomaga-Allen available now?
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@winger Too bad, Mo'unga didn't start in that game, but Brett Cameron. Wellington's backs were firing against a weak, lacklustre Canterbury defence in the middle of Canterbury's "3 games in 8 days" part of the competition. Cantebury also seemed a bit complacent after their monster scores the previous games. It was a great win from Wellington, though.
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I've compared the lists of Super Rugby players with the Mitre 10 Cup squads and all Mitre 10 Cup squads.
Of all SR players, Scott Scrafton, Jimmy Tupou, Sam McNicol, Vince Aso, Harrison Allan and Ben Funnell have not been named in a Mitre 10 Cup squad due to injury. However, there are several players, who have been named in Mitre 10 Cup squads despite being injured, and they may get little or no game time. Reggie Goodes has retired from rugby entirely, while Wyatt Crockett has retired from SR, but will still play Mitre 10 Cup.
On top of that, there are 3 SR players, who will first play Mitre 10 Cup and then head overseas: Toni Pulu, Michael Fatialofa and Seta Tamanivalu. 24 other SR players will head overseas straight away, temporarily (returning to SR in 2019) or permanently, with one of those (Pete Samu) playing test rugby.
I may have missed a few names (please, let me know), but the following lists of players from the 2018 All Blacks Sevens, 2018 New Zealand U20s and 2017 New Zealand Schools teams have been named in Mitre 10 Cup teams (there's some overlap between these lists):
2018 All Blacks Sevens
Caleb Clarke - Auckland
Trael Joass - Bay of Plenty
Vilimoni Koroi - Otago
Sione Molia - Counties Manukau
Etene Nanai-Seturo - Counties Manukau
Jona Nareki - Otago
Joe Ravouvou - Auckland
Salesi Rayasi - Auckland
Bailey Simonsson - Bay of Plenty2018 New Zealand U20s
Caleb Clarke - Auckland (and Blues)
Harry Plummer - Auckland (and Blues)
Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa - Auckland
Hoskins Sotutu - Auckland (and Blues)
Tanielu Tele'a - Auckland (and Blues)
Tevita Mafileo - Bay of Plenty
Kaleb Trask - Bay of Plenty
Tom Christie - Canterbury
Ngane Punivai - Canterbury
Suetena Asomua - Counties Manukau
Devan Flanders - Hawke's Bay
Will Tremain - Hawke's Bay
Scott Gregory - Northland
Vilimoni Koroi - Otago
Jay Renton - Southland
Flynn Thomas - Southland
Tom Florence - Taranaki
Xavier Roe - Taranaki
Leicester Fainga'anuku - Ta$man
Jamie Spowart - Ta$man WTG (injury cover)
Laghlan McWhannell - Waikato
Bailyn Sullivan - Waikato (and Chiefs)
Quinn Tupaea - Waikato
Xavier Numia - Wellington
Billy Proctor - Wellington
Pasi Uluilakepa - Wellington WTG2017 NZ Schools
Etene Nanai-Seturo - Counties Manukau
Devan Flanders - Hawke's Bay
Lincoln McClutchie - Hawke's Bay
Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe - Hawke's Bay
Danny Toala - Hawke's Bay
Kini Naholo - Taranaki
Tupou Vaa’i - Taranaki
Leicester Fainga'anuku - Ta$man
Quinn Tupaea - Waikato -
@stargazer Tele'a and Plummer are also (and Blues).
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@kiwimurph Thanks, yes, I had that in the full list. Only posted the last bit.
I wonder whether, by the end of the season, more of these U20s players will end up in a SR squad.
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@stargazer problem is, how many spots are available?
Wasnt there an article several weeks back saying the Chiefs were all but full for 2019?
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@taniwharugby Yes, but we don't know whether that includes the development contracts, or only refers to the full contracts. And the media may be wrong, of course.
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@taniwharugby said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
Wasnt there an article several weeks back saying the Chiefs were all but full for 2019?
The Chiefs have plenty of players off contract, including the never seen Verney, Aumua and Hoeata (injured).
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The list was:
Graham - won't be re-signed with 6 props in the squad
Ross - re-signed
Taukei'aho - needs to be signed
Hoeata - from the Naki so a good chance of being involved again I'd prefer McWhannell
MMac - see above
Verney
Aumua
Pulu - gone to Brumbies
Stevenson
Also need to replace Bird, Messam, Fa'auli and Nanai-Williams. I'm saying Wainui is Ngatai's replacement.
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Northland team vs North Harbour.
Northland Team:-
Ross Wright (Wellsford)
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Matt Moulds (Otamatea)
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Jack Straker - Debut (Kamo)
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Tom Robinson (Kerikeri)
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Josh Goodhue (Kamo)
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Murray Douglas (Awanui)
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Kara Pryor (Hora Hora)
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Jaycob Matiu (Hora Hora)
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Sam Nock (Kerikeri)
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Jack Debreczeni - Debut (Eastern)
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Rene Ranger (Wellsford)
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Blake Hohaia (Kamo)
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Tamati Tua (Kamo)
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Jordan Hyland (Wellsford)
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Matty Wright (Wellsford)
Replacements
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Jordan Olsen (Mid Northern)
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Isileli Tu'ungafasi - Debut (Mid Northern)
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Ropate Rinakama (Waipu)
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Kane Jacobson - Debut (Kamo)
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Matt Matich (Western Sharks)
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Jono Kitto - Debut (Hikurangi)
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Myles Throughgood - Debut (Kamo)
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Scott Gregory - Debut (Hikurangi)
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@stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@winger Too bad, Mo'unga didn't start in that game, but Brett Cameron. Wellington's backs were firing against a weak, lacklustre Canterbury defence in the middle of Canterbury's "3 games in 8 days" part of the competition. Cantebury also seemed a bit complacent after their monster scores the previous games. It was a great win from Wellington, though.
He did play though. And must have been on before HT as it was 17-7 at HT. And from memory he was poor
Wellington 60 (Malo Tuitama 2, Julian Savea, Asafo Aumua, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Du'Plessis Kirifi, Ben Lam, Regan Verney tries; Jackson Garden-Bachop 7 con, 2 pen) Canterbury 14 (Josh McKay, George Bridge tries; Richie Mo'unga 2 con). HT: 17-7.
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@winger Mo'unga came on for 13 minutes during the first half when Cameron was being treated for an injury. In those 13 minutes, Canterbury scored a try which he converted. After that he went off again. He replaced the right winger (Waqanibau) in the second half, but playing at fullback (the fullback moving to the wing), but Mo'unga did the goalkicking. He indeed didn't have an extraordinary game, but it's ludicrous to say he was outplayed by JGB (which is what you claimed) if only because Mo'unga played out of position most of his time on the field. JGB kicked very well in that game, though. That Canterbury played while rotating several players and had several injuries wasn't an excuse for their poor performance. Wellington played excellent rugby, dealing much better with the horrible weather conditions. It was a well-deserved win.
