Hurricanes 2019 Discussion
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@carnage I don't know if you've done it deliberately to raise @Stargazer's ire, but you're missing Jonah Lowe. You best add him even if you put the ?? after him.
Also, we know Fakatava and Flanders are going to wind up elsewhere - the Canes are adverse to young Magpies talent.
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@nepia Yeah Lowe is a good player but B Proctor takes his spot for me. Best chance for him is to have a crack at the Blues.
Flanders and Farrell trained with the Canes in the pre season last year and I was fortunate to visit one of the trainings. Plumtree is a massive fan of both apparently so I will be surprised if they aren't signed. Fakatava has to be snapped up, he looks like a young Will Genia.
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@chris-b With the Crusaders flush with excellent tight five options do you think someone like Mitch Dunshea would make the move north? He was outstanding against Ta$man the other night and was the more impressive lock vs Romano.
Typical Canes look about the 2019 squad. Great backs, ho-hum forwards. Hopefully Coles, Aumua, Fidow all stay fit and we could tip you fellas over.
Much as I hate to say we do need more experience in those areas and unfortunately they don't grow on trees. Bring back the Tongan Bear.
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@carnage said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@nepia Yeah Lowe is a good player but B Proctor takes his spot for me. Best chance for him is to have a crack at the Blues.
Flanders and Farrell trained with the Canes in the pre season last year and I was fortunate to visit one of the trainings. Plumtree is a massive fan of both apparently so I will be surprised if they aren't signed. Fakatava has to be snapped up, he looks like a young Will Genia.
Why didn't you include him with ?? though? You really are poking the @stargazer bear.
Plumtree might be impressed with them both - but it's the Canes and they're from HB so it's 50/50 at best.
@Chris-B The Canes don't need a pack that can't get them to the semi finals in 5 attempts. Plus, when the Hammettuer arrives half the champagne backs disappear.
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@carnage said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
Yeah Lowe is a good player but B Proctor takes his spot for me. Best chance for him is to have a crack at the Blues.
As a midfielder or outside back? Suspect that the Blues will have SBW, Leger, Tele'a, and Manu in midfield, with Tua, Faiane, Groundwater, and Hohaia competing for a spot. (Comeback Little and Vaega ...)
Outside backs will include Duffie, Nanai, Ioane, Collins, and Clarke.
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@nepia This might be a big call at this stage of his career but Flanders has All Black written all over him and I will be gutted if the Canes pass on him. Perfect size for a number 8, great skillset and has a lot of pace for his size. Laban described him as a hybrid between Read and Zinny.
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@carnage said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@nepia Change made
I guess it also depends if he impressed Plumtree in camp this year.Re: Flanders. I think one of his issues will be getting gametime in the NPC - he's got Evans and Tu'u ahead of him. But yep he looks class, but so did Boswell-Wakefield at U20s level and he went no where.
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@tim as a Centre. The problem with the Blues is they haven't found a classic "Smith/Nonu match" in the centres and the makeup of their backline always looks disjointed. Having Lowe at Centre will give them that Proctor type player who has the nous both on attack and defense - could be a perfect option with his speed and distribution skills to really unlock the Blues potential out wide. SBW, Leger, Tele'a and Manu are all similar to those that they have picked in the past. Expect the same results if they go with those four.
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@nepia He is still very young so will probably make more cameos off the bench this year than starting opportunities. He just seems like a smart footballer and seems to make great decisions with ball in hand. Who knows, the Crusaders picked Read when he was a young fella, so the Canes may give him a crack. Hugh Renton was probably another guy that didn't reach his potential and promised alot out of college.
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@nepia said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@carnage I don't know if you've done it deliberately to raise @Stargazer's ire, but you're missing Jonah Lowe. You best add him even if you put the ?? after him.
Also, we know Fakatava and Flanders are going to wind up elsewhere - the Canes are adverse to young Magpies talent.
I don't take posts that seriously if they come from someone who has joined the Fern in the last few hours, has contributed only 6 posts and starts making big statements about "young talent that have all but committed" to the Canes.
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@stargazer Has he just joined the Fern though? Seriously though what is the point at Lowe staying at the Canes, he would be better off at the Blues where he will atleast get more minutes and a chance to show how talented you think he is.
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@carnage said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@nepia He is still very young so will probably make more cameos off the bench this year than starting opportunities. He just seems like a smart footballer and seems to make great decisions with ball in hand. Who knows, the Crusaders picked Read when he was a young fella, so the Canes may give him a crack.
Yeah, it would be good if they picked him up, but you'll understand why I'm not confident that will happen by looking at where HB players usually wind up at Super level, and it isn't in Wellington most of the time.
Renton may have kicked on (and may still in Wellington) if not for constant injury and personal circumstances.
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@nepia But when you look at options in that position from a Wellington point of few, there aren't many. Loose forward stocks are quite slim with most of the down at the Highlanders, therefore I think he is a safe bet and i'm confident history won't repeat itself. Or we might do something stupid and sign Thomas Waldrom instead.
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@carnage said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
@stargazer Has he just joined the Fern though? Seriously though what is the point at Lowe staying at the Canes, he would be better off at the Blues where he will atleast get more minutes and a chance to show how talented you think he is.
No one would be better off at the Blues. I'd rather see him join the Chiefs (they have to fill some vacancies) or Highlanders (taking Buckman's spot if the latter doesn't return). Maybe even Crusaders, although they'll probably fill their remaining spots from within the region.
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@stargazer @stargazer you obviously didn't get my private message. If you must know the man, the myth, the legend - Canes4life is back (under a new name). Only reason I am not using that account is I don't have access because of email issues a while back - so if someone can help reset my password for that account that would be super.
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@stargazer Probs a fair point re joining the Blues. You get the drift though, he is down the pecking order at the Canes and would probably be better off looking elsewhere. I've met Jonah and he seems like a good kid - I wish him all the best if he does end up moving franchise.
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@carnage said in Hurricanes 2019 Discussion:
Canes4life is back (under a new name). Only reason I am not using that account is I don't have access because of email issues a while back - so if someone can help reset my password for that account that would be super.
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