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    chchfanatic
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    @chester-draws also no players who have signed league contracts. Which is fair enough I guess.
    I’d love to see a breakdown of how many nz schools players have gone on to abs compared to nz20s players.

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    @chchfanatic Good call. I wonder how many of those St Peter's players have been ruled ineligible that way?

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    @chester-draws I'd be suprised if any have we've barely had anyone ever sign to rugby league sides over the years and I can't see that changing (I could probably count it on one hand).

    I'm not saying the whole side should have been picked, I just feel that a couple of others deserved a look at as well but never mind.

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    Not many from outside the 'big name colleges', but one from my old school Wai Col which is nice to see!

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    I am involved in coaching 1stXV and have coached some of these boys and against some. Looking at the list it's reasonably accurate, there are always going to be arguments either way. There are some schools who win because they have a more even spread of talent or team culture and those that have 3-4 very talented individuals. In the end the cream rises to the top ABs etc. example the 2015 WC starting team 8 did not play NZ schools. Not an exact science. Rules like league contracts etc play a huge part as has been mentioned

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    @chchfanatic 20s if far more accurate as a number do not make 20s from school. example from this years rugby championship if played schools, 20s both or none. only 12 have played both schools and 20s I think

    Hookers
    Dane Coles 21s only
    Nathan Harris 20s only
    Codie Taylor both

    Props
    Owen Franks both
    Joe Moody none
    Tim Perry none
    Karl Tu'inukuafe none
    Ofa Tuungafasi both

    Locks
    Scott Barrett 20s only
    Brodie Retallick 20s only
    Samuel Whitelock both

    Loose Forwards
    Sam Cane both
    Shannon Frizell neither
    Jackson Hemopo 20s
    Kieran Read both
    Ardie Savea both
    Liam Squire neither
    Luke Whitelock both

    Backs:
    Halfbacks
    TJ Perenara both
    Aaron Smith 20s only
    Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi 20s only

    First five-eighths
    Beauden Barrett 20s only
    Damian McKenzie both
    Richie Mo'unga 20s only

    Midfielders
    Ryan Crotty both
    Jack Goodhue 20s only
    Anton Lienert-Brown 20s only (but wld have rep schools if not inj prob.)
    Sonny Bill Williams none

    Outside backs
    Jordie Barrett 20s only
    Rieko Ioane both (never played 20s though)
    Nehe Milner-Skudder none
    Waisake Naholo 20s only
    Ben Smith none

    also from 2014-2016 nz schools squads 38/72 have gone onto NZ 20s WC squad, a number of others have been involved in lead up but not made final squad or been inj.

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    @machpants said in 2018 New Zealand Schools:

    Not many from outside the 'big name colleges', but one from my old school Wai Col which is nice to see!

    Aotea College would be in the same category from the Wellington region.

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    Any sons of, or nephews?

    Unfortunately it's my best tool for keeping an active eye on the future

    By the way great knowledge and involvement of these young fellas - much respect

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    @Stargazer

    Stewart Cruden - Palmerston North Boys' High School

    From Palmy, same name ... what relation?

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    chchfanatic
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    @booboo brother

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    Thanks @chchfanatic

    What position? (If it was in the article I apologise in advance ... my level of interes t only warrants skimming over the team list and seeing what schools were represented 🙂

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    Bovidae
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    @booboo 1st 5 also.

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    NZ Māori Under 18 team

    Bailey Gordon - Western Heights High School - Te Arawa
    Billy Priestly - Gisborne Boys' High School - Ngāti Porou, Te Aitanga a Hauiti
    Chris Hemi - St Patrick's College, Silverstream - Ngāti Kahungunu
    Cortez-Lee Ratima - Hamilton Boys' High School - Ngāti Maniapoto, Ngāti Tama
    Damarus Hokianga - Hastings Boys' High School - Ngāti Kahungunu
    Daniel Rona - New Plymouth Boys' High School - Te Atiawa
    Jack Gray - Ponsonby Rugby Club - Ngāti Whakaue
    Jayden Walker - Napier Boys' High School - Ngāti Kahungunu
    Jordan Thompson-Dunn - Hastings Boys' High School - Ngāti Kahungunu
    Kynan Stowers-Smith - St Bede's College - Ngāti Tama
    Leo Ngatai-Tafau - St Peters College (Auckland) - Ngāti Porou, Tainui
    Leo Thompson - Napier Boys' High School - Ngai Tā Manuhiri, Ngāti Rangiwewehi
    Niko Manaena - Southland Boys' Boys High School - Ngāti Porou, Ngai Tahu, Ngāti Kahungunu
    Nikora Broughton - Hato Paora College - Ngāti Ruanui, Ngā Rauru, Te Āti Haunui ā Papaprangi
    Oliver Parkinson - Auckland Grammar School - Te Arawa, Te Rarawa
    Raniera Peterson - Upper Hutt Rams - Ngāti Kahungunu
    Ruben Love - Palmerston Boys' High School - Te Atiawa
    Samuel Sexton-Walton - Karamu High School - Ngāti Kahungunu
    Taylor Dale - Otago Boys' High School - Ngāpuhi, Ngāti Whatua
    Te Paea Cook-Savage - St Paul's Collegiate - Ngai Takato
    Te Rama Reuben - Rotorua Boys' High School - Ngāti Awa, Ngati Rangi, Te Arawa
    Terrell Peita - Mt Albert Grammar - Te Rarawa Kaiwhare
    Thomas Murray-Edwards - New Plymouth Boys' High School - Ngati Whakaue
    Tiaki Fabish - Napier Boys' High School - Ngāti Maniapoto, Te Whanau ā Apanui
    Zach Ririnui - Rotorua Boys' High School - Ngai Te Rangi, Ngāti Ranginui

    Unavailable due to injury: Werohika Witaka and Sione Tuliakiono

    The team will assemble in Wellington on 22 September before matches against the New Zealand Schools Barbarians (27 September) and Fiji Schools (5 October).
    
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    Some Rotorua BHS players actually under 18? Pull the other one ..... 😉

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    Bovidae
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    I'm not familiar with the coaches (Rua Wanoa and Kahu Carey). Where are they from?

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    Stargazer
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    @bovidae

    Google tells me that Rua Wanoa is a former prop (who has played in the Wanganui club comp). He has been the head coach of this team at least since 2016.

    Kahu Carey is (or was) a coach educator working for the Canterbury rugby union (previously, a rugby development officer at the Ellesmere rugby sub-union), who has also coached the Canterbury Maori team in recent years. He has been the backs coach of the NZ Maori U18 team previously.

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    Bovidae
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    @stargazer Thanks. I thought they might be 1st XV coaches.

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    Samuel Sexton-Walton - Karamu High School - Ngāti Kahungunu

    Another indication you can still make it from "unfashionable" rugby schools. Wonder what the odds are for him turning out for some Auckland school (or Hamilton BHS) next season?

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    @higgins Probably at least a high chance he turns out for Hastings or Napier.

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    The NZ Schools and NZ Barbarians Schools squads have been selected.

    New Zealand Schools
    Iona Apineru - St Patrick's College - Silverstream (lock)
    Louie Chapman - Christchurch Boys' High School (halfback)
    Sam Darry - Christ's College (lock, apparently already over 2m tall last year)
    Chay Fihaki - Sacred Heart College (first five-eighth)
    Taufa Funaki - Sacred Heart College (halfback)
    Matt Graham-Williams - St Kentigern College (prop, TH?)
    Niko Jones - St Peter's College (loose forward)
    Jacob Kneepkens - Francis Douglas Memorial College (first five-eighth? Played for 2017 NZ Fiji Schools 7s)
    Joshua Lord - Hamilton Boys' High School (lock)
    Josiah Maraku - Feilding High School (centre)
    Thomas Martin - Hamilton Boys' High School (blindside flanker)
    Saula Mau - Auckland Grammar School (according to google, he's a big lump of a TH prop, around 140kg?)
    Blair Murray - New Plymouth Boys' High School (fullback)
    Simon Parker - St Peter's School - Cambridge (lock/loosie)
    George Prain - Rangiora High School (loose forward)
    Isaiah Punivai - St Kentigern College (utility back, brother of Ngane)
    Rivez Reihana - St Kentigern College (first five-eighth)
    Anton Segner - Nelson College (loose forward, no. 8 )
    Zarn Sullivan - King's College (first five-eighth, brother of Bailyn)
    Tiaan Tauakipulu - St Kentigern College (prop)
    Patrick Thacker - Christ's College (prop)
    Tyrone Thompson - Napier Boys' High School (hooker)
    Soane Vikena - Mt Albert Grammar School (loose forward??)
    Ethan Webster-Nonu - Scots College (wing)
    Tamaiti Williams - St Kentigern College (prop)
    Gideon Wrampling - St Paul's Collegiate (midfielder, on greenandgoldrugby site described as poached by the Chiefs from the Reds)

    The New Zealand Schools’ and New Zealand Schools’ Barbarians teams have today been selected for their 2018 campaigns. Players have been selected after three days in a development camp at Massey University’s Sport & Rugby Institute in Palmerston North.
    
    New Zealand Schools’ Rugby Union chairman Garry Chronican named the New Zealand Schools’ team which features nine players from last year’s Schools' programme.
    
    Coach Brad Mooar said the quality of players at this week's camp had been exceptional which made for a tough task in selecting the team.
    
    "The selectors did a really great job in getting such a strong group of players together who have really embraced the last few days and made for an energising and positive environment.
    
    "We have a few returning players which is good but these young men have bonded very quickly, its a tight group of players already and we hope this campaign will be the best rugby experience that they have had," said Mooar.
    

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    New Zealand Barbarians Schools
    Arthur Allen - Christ's College
    James Arscott - Otago Boys' High School
    Caleb Cavubati - Scots College
    Stewart Cruden - Palmerston North Boys' High School
    Corey Evans - Auckland Grammar School
    Zach Gallagher - Christ's College
    Josh Gimblett - Napier Boys' High School
    Lukas Halls - King's College
    Tahu Kaa - Christchurch Boys' High School
    Benet Kumeroa - Auckland Grammar School
    Peni Lasaqa - St Kentigern College
    Mahonri Ngakuru - St Kentigern College
    Jacob Payne - Southland Boys' High School
    Noah Perelini - King's College
    Robert Rush - St Kentigern College
    SamSmith - Wairarapa College
    Roderick Solo - Scots College
    Ropati So'oalo - Aotea College
    Poukohe Sorenson - Rotorua Boys High School
    Kristian Standen - New Plymouth Boys' High School
    Patrick Teddy - Napier Boys' High School
    Junior Uelese - Scots College
    Keelan Whitman - St Patrick's College - Wellington

    NZ Schools' and NZ Schools' Barbarians teams named

    NZ Schools' and NZ Schools' Barbarians teams named

    The New Zealand Schools’ and New Zealand Schools’ Barbarians teams have today been selected for their 2018 campaigns. Players have been selected after three days in a development camp at...

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