Stats Indicate Some AB Problems
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@gt12 thanks for the summary, interesting reading.
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Yeah, they don't tell the full story - of course - but it's not good reading.
Just for fun, before the test, what money would you get if you bet that Etzebeth (1) would have the same number of offloads as the entire AB team?
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@gt12 Not too surprising about the lack of run metres in the starting forwards. Moody is the best of the props, BBBR much better than Whitelock and Squire the most effective amongst the loose forwards. None of those 3 were playing. If the forwards aren't making ground up the middle it's hard for the backs to play off.
We saw none of the short passes to Frizell that were so effective in Nelson, but we didn't in Arg either. It has to be tactics.
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@bovidae said in MOTM All Blacks v Springbokke II:
@gt12 Not too surprising about the lack of run metres in the starting forwards. Moody is the best of the props, BBBR much better than Whitelock and Squire the most effective amongst the loose forwards. None of those 3 were playing. If the forwards aren't making ground up the middle it's hard for the backs to play off.
We saw none of the short passes to Frizell that were so effective in Nelson, but we didn't in Arg either. It has to be tactics.
we didn't win any of the collisions for a long time in that game, which is sort of backed up by those run metre figures. The Boks were stopping our ball runners dead, and that contributed to our appalling ruck ball. They on the other hand got behind us, allowing them to generate really quick ball, which they used really well. We really should have been a lot further behind.
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@bones said in MOTM All Blacks v Springbokke II:
@gt12 keen to know!
Looks like about 15 of them!
Plus, it's worth noting that we didn't score a try until Mo'unga was on - Barrett received the kick at FB and beat two men on the return, setting up the ruck for Taylor's break.
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@mariner4life said in MOTM All Blacks v Springbokke II:
The Boks were stopping our ball runners dead, and that contributed to our appalling ruck ball. They on the other hand got behind us, allowing them to generate really quick ball, which they used really well. We really should have been a lot further behind.
This! Same as Wellington (and other games against the Bokke) - when they are interested defensively, i fyou don't have something special, they just form walls to run into. IT's awesome, btu hard to break down.
The LIons and the Boks show that if you have a team of big, committed physical players it is hard to break them down. You need something special. Good to have the boys remidned of this now, and not next year
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@gt12 Excellent post. Very little go forward ball from the fatties, even less from the midfield meant BB had a tough game and the quick men out wide were living off scraps.
The return of Moody, BBBR and Squire will help. That said, I'd like to see Akira Ioane in the All Blacks set up. He is a very powerful ball-carrier who can break tackles and offload.
I know neither were available at Loftus but for me Laumape and Goodhue is the first-choice AB midfield.
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Adjacent to the lack of go forward from the AB fatties, I noticed that the Boks have now employed our forwards passing close tactic and it worked quite effectively (I'm sure it took us at least a year to be competent at it - they seemed to have picked it up quick).
It's funny reading about this great comeback in a bunch of articles, but, I personally I didn't get any of the elation you normally have from these comeback wins, and I haven't warmed to it even more on the partial re-watch. It's a strange feeling - I wish I was over the moon about it. We still won a test with the Boks.
@sparky There's no way Laumape is part of the first choice midfield, he must be the last pick out of the current 5 if we're being honest.
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I said this in other post. Taylor and Whitelock look like they need a rest. With BBBR and Squire, Moody and maybe Coles that solves issues...but injuries. Game plan with BBBR looks sooo different than without, takes pressure off 9/10
Best ball running forwards outside squad for NH tour that are availableRomano, Akira, Evans, papalii, Aumua.....
Others?Give Taylor rest bring in Squire, Moody, BBBR should be resolved.
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@gt12 said in Stats Indicate Some AB Problems:
Yeah, they don't tell the full story - of course - but it's not good reading.
Just for fun, before the test, what money would you get if you bet that Etzebeth (1) would have the same number of offloads as the entire AB team?
Pretty even. The big fella has a set of massive cannons that he loves to free up when he's not busy doing Bruno impressions.
