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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Good to read that the other 1A schools have taken a stand.

    It would be interesting to know who the other 4 players are.

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    @bovidae said in 2019 School Rugby:

    Good to read that the other 1A schools have taken a stand.

    Hypocritical of a bunch some of them to take a stand though.

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    @nepia There is obviously a degree of self-preservation.

    St Kents and King's are the worst offenders of getting players from outside of Auckland. And if your chequebook is bigger...

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    @bovidae said in 2019 School Rugby:

    @nepia There is obviously a degree of self-preservation.

    St Kents and King's are the worst offenders of getting players from outside of Auckland. And if your chequebook is bigger...

    Yeah, and Kings was a signatory to this - maybe they are sneakier in that they grab the talented U15 players just before they hot 1st XV level?

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    @nepia That's a risk tho, they've still got to develop them to 1st XV

    I'd be interested to see who the WBHS boy was.

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    @nepia Like the Sullivan brothers?

    King's have agreed to change their recruitment policies so are likely on probation.

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    @bovidae said in 2019 School Rugby:

    @nepia Like the Sullivan brothers?

    King's have agreed to change their recruitment policies so are likely on probation.

    Jonah Lowe - sending up the @Stargazer bat signal. 😉

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    @machpants I just asked a guy at work who's son played WBHS 1st 15 this year and he mentioned a couple of names as possibles.

    Pretty sure an exceptionally talented young fella up here had a good deal to go to a top Auckland school (not St Kents) this year, but he is only form 3 this year (year whatever)

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    You'd think the real answer is to have NZ Rugby put in place some sensible rules that are consistent across the country. Hopefully that's what comes out of this NZ Rugby schoolboy rugby review.

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    @nepia Didn't see Kings among the signatures?

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    @tim Article on NZH mentions they will abide by the new guidelines but refused to boycott ST K games - thus their sig not on the letters

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    @tim said in 2019 School Rugby:

    @nepia Didn't see Kings among the signatures?

    Dolt, my bad I have to take everything I said back - I could have sworn I say Kings there when I first read it. 🤦🏾♂

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    They have been saying this for years around schools and poaching. The issue in NZ is the rules and the inconsistency of the application of the rules.
    I have been involved in a couple of clangers were schools (outside AKLD) have basically lawyer-ed up and the rugby unions have backed down as has been mentioned in the article.
    Again not many of the big schools can say they do not bend the rules, even though they say it publicly (Not necessarily recruiting form other firstXVs).
    This has been a build up of miss-management and offloading for decades from a number of organisations from Auckland schools sport (In this case), NZSSC, Local and senior rugby unions all not singing from the same sheet.

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    I just saw that a Boy from my old school, Onewhero Area School in the Wop Wops of the Counties province is attending the Chiefs Under 17's camp. He will get approached for a scholarship no doubt. Any decent player from there has moved to Wesley.

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    Great to see the schools taking a stand. Traditional powerhouses like Kelston and De La Salle might actually have a chance to compete again.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12171892

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    NZR is trying to get pro rugby players, so for them getting good players into rich schools which run a very pro style 1st XV is a bonus. Principals look at it from a teaching/schooling perspective. Fee paying private schools look at it from a business perspective. Unsurprisingly they disagree what's 'best'

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    The comments on the Stuff article are interesting. Similar fingers pointed at Scots in the Wellington region, for example.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/109109162/auckland-secondary-schools-refuse-to-play-st-kents-in-protest-against-alleged-poaching

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    @tim said in 2019 School Rugby:

    @nepia Didn't see Kings among the signatures?

    From the article I posted:

    St Kentigern refused to sign the new document. King's have signed the guiding principles document but have not agreed to boycott playing St Kents.
    
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