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    @Chris-B if we had to pick someone I'd chuck Ben Smith in there.

    The compromise we'd have to make at 15 is better than the compromise we'd have to make at 10.

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    @Chris-B Has David Havili ever played at 10? I know he can do the goal kicking (I still remember that huge kick in the clip below) and kicks in play, but don't know whether he'd have the required game management skills.

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    @Chris-B Jordie is nailed on for the squad, covers too many positions.

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    @Chris-B

    I think Frizell will be in the RWC squad, especially as Liam Squire looks broken. But my God, he was poor against Crusaders last weekend. I would be worried about him going MIA in a World Cup knockout after that.

    What I think is really special indeed about Will Jordan is his ability to accelerate and hit the line with the ball in two hand. This could be invaluable against the super organised defences we will see in RWC knock outs.

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    Two implications already obvious of DMac being injured.

    Jordie Barrett makes the squad. If not the first choice anywhere, he provide decent cover across the backline and is an excellent goalkicker.

    Ben Smith if fit is the first-choice fullback for the knock outs. He is our best player under the high ball.

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    @Kirwan said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    @Chris-B Jordie is nailed on for the squad, covers too many positions.

    Now that DMac is injured, I think he'll make it. I wouldn't have picked him if DMac was fit.

    To be honest, though, I don't think he covers many positions at all at elite test level. He can be chucked in the midfield or on the wing against the minnows, though. I don't want to see him anywhere except fullback in a big test.

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    @sparky what do you think our best back-row combo is?

    I would go 6. Cane 7. Savea 8. Read
    I'd like to see 6. Read 7. Savea 8. Ioane - Read can move back to 8 when Akira is gassed.

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    @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    @Chris-B Has David Havili ever played at 10? I know he can do the goal kicking (I still remember that huge kick in the clip below) and kicks in play, but don't know whether he'd have the required game management skills.

    Maybe in club rugby. I don't recall him ever playing there for Mako or Crusaders - even as a fill in. His brother Willy plays first five, though! 🙂

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    @sparky It is a great pity Will Jordan missed last season for the Crusaders. A year too soon for Will, I think.

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    @westcoastie said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    @Chris-B if we had to pick someone I'd chuck Ben Smith in there.

    The compromise we'd have to make at 15 is better than the compromise we'd have to make at 10.

    I'd play one of the halfbacks there - if we HAD to. TJ, I guess.

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    @Chris-B Willy Havili? Sounds like an 80s German R&B lip syncing group.

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    The Springbok emblem has been relegated to the sleeve for this years world cup jersey, creating plenty of comment/debate in the republic.

    d77cdde0-5da3-4e88-999c-023d1e1c13e7-image.png

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    @Daffy-Jaffy it was in 2015, too

    c2915525-e6f4-4303-8a02-1bfde8024409-image.jpeg https://rugbyshirtwatch.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/sarwc15homefront.jpeg

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    So Hansen says this of DMac

    *"Where we'll miss him most is his ability to rip teams apart. It's not so much a positional thing," says the veteran coach. "He's very much like a young Beauden. He can cover a couple of positions but he's got ability and speed to open sides up. Beauden did that job last World Cup very successfully.

    "That takes the pressure off to find someone like that because we've already got someone who is world-class at it.*

    So it's he talking about Jordie here?

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/112296416/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-coach-steve-hansen-will-role-dice-at-10-if-required

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    I read it that he was talking about Beauden Barrett.

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    @sparky said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    I read it that he was talking about Beauden Barrett.

    That’s how i read it too.

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    What makes me wonder what is Beauden Barrett's role going to be at the 2019 Rugby World Cup? First choice starting First-Five or super Sub like 2019 or is Hansen sending a coded signal to BB that Mo'unga is the player in better form at the moment.

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    @Machpants said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    *"Where we'll miss him most is his ability to rip teams apart. It's not so much a positional thing," says the veteran coach. "He's very much like a young Beauden. He can cover a couple of positions but he's got ability and speed to open sides up. Beauden did that job last World Cup very successfully.

    "That takes the pressure off to find someone like that because we've already got someone who is world-class at it.*

    I read it as Beauden too.

    A tad troubling that if Beauden and McKenzie both went down Hansen would feel pressure to find another player who can "rip teams apart" rather than revert to a more conventional gameplan and work with the players available.

    Obviously the game changes but looking at past RWC finalists having an enigmatic gamebreaker hardly seems a prerequisite. Discipline, good defensive patterns and superior goal/drop kicking does.

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    @sparky I think he's thinking of starting BB at 10 in the big games and possibly shifting him to 15 at some point, with RM coming on at 10. If he wants to start RM at 10 in the big games, he'll need to give RM plenty of starts during the Rugby Championship, particularly against South Africa and Australia, not just the Argies. RM may be the best 10 in SR for the second year straight, but he's still pretty green in black.

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    @rotated

    World Cups are usually won by the team with the best 1-10 on the park with very solid team defence. But each World Cup winner has had at least one game-breaker.

    1987 New Zealand: John Kirwan and John Gallagher
    1991 Australia: David Campese.
    1995 South Africa: Andre Joubert
    1999 Australia: Stephen Larkham
    2003 England: Jason Robinson
    2007 South Africa: Bryan Habana
    2011 New Zealand: Israel Dagg
    2015 New Zealand: Nehe Milner Skudder, SBW and Beauden Barrett.

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