NZ Rugby Board representational 'diversity'
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@Kirwan said in NZ Rugby Board representational 'diversity':
@barbarian That viewport works if all white people think the same and all brown people think the same.
That's the disturbing aspect of the article, the assumption that your viewpoint is predetermined by physical characteristics outside of your control.
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@antipodean So we basically agree then? But you didn’t link to that specific quote so how was I supposed to know you weren’t just blanket dismissing all diversity as without merit?
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@Nepia said in NZ Rugby Board representational 'diversity':
@antipodean So we basically agree then? But you didn’t link to that specific quote so how was I supposed to know you weren’t just blanket dismissing all diversity as without merit?
Yeah, fair point there's enough ambiguity in my original post because of the lack of context to make the inference you did.
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Think you guys have found a good middle ground. I don't think most people are inheritly against diversity, it's just when organisations set or are set targets regardless of who applies when problems arise. Everybody loses there; some people may miss out on jobs despite being the strongest candidate, while others may not want to be promoted based on things they have no control over. Not to mention the situation where people are questioning appointments because of publicly stated targets.
There are lots of areas with an imbalance which is caused by factors that go way deeper than just discrimination, especially when it comes to men and women. A lot of these targets are simply unattainable
I've no problem with NZR casting the net wide, that's good to see, but we really need to make sure that heirarchies in our society are based on merit as much as possible.
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@Nevorian said in NZ Rugby Board representational 'diversity':
How diverse is Netball New Zealand Board? maybe they should swap or amalgamate with NZRFU to sure up this diversity thing?
I’d say they are bracing themselves for the issue of blokes wanting to play in women’s teams that must surely be coming their way.
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@barbarian said in NZ Rugby Board representational 'diversity':
@Kirwan said in NZ Rugby Board representational 'diversity':
It shouldn't even be a factor IMO, it should just be on merit alone. If that means the best candidate is a woman, or black, or gay should make no difference.
I don't necessarily disagree, though I think the background of candidates is relevant and being a woman/black/whatever can make a candidate more suitable for a role.
I think it's really pertinent to Board structures, where ultimately you want a diverse range of viewpoints and experiences around the table.
I'm critical of the Rugby Australia Board because I think it's dominated by white privately schooled men from Sydney or Brisbane. Considering the high number of people from non-Anglo backgrounds playing our game, or people from outside Sydney/Brisbane, I think it would be wise for them to look outside this narrow demographic.
A popular (and accurate) critique of RA is they only act in the interests of a narrow group of people on the Eastern Seaboard, without much regard for the rest of the country. When you look at the Board, it's hard not to see why those decisions have been made in that way.
I would agree to an extent, but the issue is more the schools or clubs they played for and socio-economic background rather than the colour of their skin. I doubt having private school educated non-anglos or women will make any difference. It's not like Dilip Kumar's reign as CEO was a resounding success.
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I have kind of enjoyed the move to merit based appointments over the past 20 years after they moved away from heavy provincial bias and horse-trading. I think it's coincided with a good period of success. I would need to see a compelling case to move away from appointing people based on merit.
FWIW for the virtue signallers I believe the NZRU can lay claim to two female board members as Andrew Goolightly identified as a nun on the 1996 Springbok tour.
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I think with Womens Rugby becoming more prominent now than what it was say 10 years ago we will more than likely see more women get involved on the administration side of things up to Board level and I am sure this will be a good thing if they have the right rugby credentials. We want people who have lived and breathed rugby all of their lives and have a bit of nous upstairs to be running the sport
