Nations Championship?
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@rotated said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
@Wurzel said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
Dunno why anyone would be disappointed by this. It would have killed global rugby. Samoa, USA, Romania, Tonga, Canada, Uruguay and Russia all left to rot. The same 10 teams playing each other season after season like cricket or netball.
The current system has seen them go from World Cup quarter finalists to losing to Brazil on multiple occasions. USA was included in the top tier of the initial proposal.
I'm not sure what model is going to allow a nation of approximately 100,000 people who essentially has no professional infrastructure and entire talent base is outsource to compete on a level playing field with the other top tier nations. I'm happy to hear one?
The current system is rubbish as well. The proposed system would see them possibly, maybe, potentially play Japan in 12 years time. That's it.
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WHY
This was a clear money grab to create a closed shop for Tier 1 nations
I'm delighted it's collapsed
Reform is needed not naked greed and short sightness
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@Jaguares4real said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
WHY
This was a clear money grab to create a closed shop for Tier 1 nations
I'm delighted it's collapsed
Reform is needed not naked greed and short sightness
Good luck with your reform crusade. Let us know how negotiations turn out with French & UK clubs.
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@Jaguares4real said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
This was a clear money grab to create a closed shop for Tier 1 nations
I'm delighted it's collapsed
If it is a money grab surely the money is being grabbed from those outside the closed shop. How many Tongan paʻanga and Uruguayan peso do you think they were planning to make away with? Must be a decent amount for all this effort?
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@Jaguares4real said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
WHY
This was a clear money grab to create a closed shop for Tier 1 nations
I'm delighted it's collapsed
Reform is needed not naked greed and short sightness
The only thing that’s not clear is who opposed it and why?
Apparently, it suited the Sanzaar unions and FFR supported it. In a recent interview with English RFU CEO, they were broadly in support of it too. So that leaves the four smaller PRO14 unions or some of them opposed.
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@Billy-Tell said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
usade. Let us know how negotiatio
You don't negotiate
You just ENFORCE Regulation 9 re. player release
So forcing the Frogs especially to stop poaching PI players & making them French or bribing them to not play in RWC's
Time for taking is over Time to start rattling some cages
Can't compete financially
Compete for access and you'll win
Reg 9 simples
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@Jaguares4real
Except you can't force individual players against their own financial benefit, which is why this could have been a step in the right direction. -
current system isnt great, but that proposal wasnt either.
Need to start with a global season before they try to fix other parts.
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Also, not touching the 6 nations seems to be crucial.
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@mofitzy_ said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
Tier 2 nations would be getting more money and the chance (eventually) to become tier 1.
Don't see how this benefits anyone except the European clubs and I suppose any country that is scared of being included in competition on merit.
There are 66 European professional clubs. How does it benefit the likes of Connacht, Zebre, Ealing Trailfinders, Dragons, Biarritz, amongst a lot of others?
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@Derm-McCrum
Less international games and cheaper foreign players for a start. -
@mofitzy_ said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
@Derm-McCrum
Less international games and cheaper foreign players for a start.Makes no difference to them.
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@Derm-McCrum
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@mofitzy_ said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
@Derm-McCrum
If they have international players on their books then it does.The European clubs supplying test players that would be involved in playing additional games beyond the normal 3-test Nov games would be pretty small out of 66 clubs.
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@Derm-McCrum
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@mofitzy_ said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
@Derm-McCrum
Cheaper foreign players too.There’s no ‘too’. Since we’ve just established that it would not benefit the vast majority of European clubs, particularly those in the PRO14, Championship and PROD2.
Cheaper foreign players - how and why?
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@Jaguares4real said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
You just ENFORCE Regulation 9 re. player release
How when players accept contracts that benefit them for not playing OS?
Even then, it doesn't address the aspect that clubs can play those squad members into the ground. Agreements to have Test players miss games and restrict minutes, attend squad days etc. wouldn't exist.
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@Derm-McCrum said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
@Machpants said in World League Rugby / Nations Championship:
Yup and NZ getting no money for our games in the NH.
No money?
NZRU gets money from tests in US and in any of the out of window tests.Exactly
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@Derm-McCrum
Shouldn't need to explain this but here we go: this would have been a massive cash injection into national unions which means more money could be spent holding on to players which obviously makes them harder to buy.
