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It's one thing to have 16 confirmed cases, but another thing entirely to allow a planeload of 600 likely infected people onto our shores.
I'm with rotated (again, this is weird, twice in two weeks). Christmas Island is the perfect spot, and given we have no obligation to evacuate our citizens I would think those 600 would be quite happy with that outcome.
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What about the residents of Christmas Island though? Who I learned today do not even have the right to vote. It was part of Singapore until 1958 when Australia petitioned the UK to give it to them (because of the phosphate).
Since then it seems a dumping ground for any of Aussies problems.
For the second consecutive day - not meaning to be overly woke, but that's a pretty shameful record of exploitation.
Plus it's a bit disingenuous to suggest all 600 evacuees will have contracted the virus.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What about the residents of Christmas Island though? Who I learned today do not even have the right to vote. It was part of Singapore until 1958 when Australia petitioned the UK to give it to them (because of the phosphate).
Since then it seems a dumping ground for any of Aussies problems.
For the second consecutive day - not meaning to be overly woke, but that's a pretty shameful record of exploitation.
Plus it's a bit disingenuous to suggest all 600 evacuees will have contracted the virus.
I don’t think that’s woke at all . I had no idea about that either , that’s bloody awful.
Is SERCO taking care of the 600 or is it part of the government?
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@barbarian said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
It's one thing to have 16 confirmed cases, but another thing entirely to allow a planeload of 600 likely infected people onto our shores.
What makes them likely? The low level of confirmed cases thus far? You do know we can screen for it on arrival and treat them in existing hospitals like a proper first world nation?
Particularly given since it was reported it doesn't seem to be any worse than influenza both in terms of contagiousness and virulence:
CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.
Then there's the issue that it wouldn't make a lick of difference anyway given the amount of flights that have been conducted. Here's a snapshot of flights in the air now:
What does the government intend to do for those flights out of Wuhan that went to Bali, Singapore, KL, etc because no one travels from those locations to here.
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@jegga said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What about the residents of Christmas Island though? Who I learned today do not even have the right to vote. It was part of Singapore until 1958 when Australia petitioned the UK to give it to them (because of the phosphate).
Since then it seems a dumping ground for any of Aussies problems.
For the second consecutive day - not meaning to be overly woke, but that's a pretty shameful record of exploitation.
Plus it's a bit disingenuous to suggest all 600 evacuees will have contracted the virus.
I don’t think that’s woke at all . I had no idea about that either , that’s bloody awful.
Is SERCO taking care of the 600 or is it part of the government?
Gets better - the government wants those people interned on the island to make a contribution to the cost.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@barbarian said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
It's one thing to have 16 confirmed cases, but another thing entirely to allow a planeload of 600 likely infected people onto our shores.
What makes them likely? The low level of confirmed cases thus far? You do know we can screen for it on arrival and treat them in existing hospitals like a proper first world nation?
Particularly given since it was reported it doesn't seem to be any worse than influenza both in terms of contagiousness and virulence:
CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.
Then there's the issue that it wouldn't make a lick of difference anyway given the amount of flights that have been conducted. Here's a snapshot of flights in the air now:
What does the government intend to do for those flights out of Wuhan that went to Bali, Singapore, KL, etc because no one travels from those locations to here.
It's the world we live in. People are so mobile that it will be everywhere soon and there isn't a thing anyone can do about it
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@jegga said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What about the residents of Christmas Island though? Who I learned today do not even have the right to vote. It was part of Singapore until 1958 when Australia petitioned the UK to give it to them (because of the phosphate).
Since then it seems a dumping ground for any of Aussies problems.
For the second consecutive day - not meaning to be overly woke, but that's a pretty shameful record of exploitation.
Plus it's a bit disingenuous to suggest all 600 evacuees will have contracted the virus.
I don’t think that’s woke at all . I had no idea about that either , that’s bloody awful.
Is SERCO taking care of the 600 or is it part of the government?
Gets better - the government wants those people interned on the island to make a contribution to the cost.
Nice. A fortnight of SERCO rice and chicken and they make you pay for it, Morrison really needs to change pr firms.
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@jegga said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@jegga said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What about the residents of Christmas Island though? Who I learned today do not even have the right to vote. It was part of Singapore until 1958 when Australia petitioned the UK to give it to them (because of the phosphate).
Since then it seems a dumping ground for any of Aussies problems.
For the second consecutive day - not meaning to be overly woke, but that's a pretty shameful record of exploitation.
Plus it's a bit disingenuous to suggest all 600 evacuees will have contracted the virus.
I don’t think that’s woke at all . I had no idea about that either , that’s bloody awful.
Is SERCO taking care of the 600 or is it part of the government?
Gets better - the government wants those people interned on the island to make a contribution to the cost.
Nice. A fortnight of SERCO rice and chicken and they make you pay for it, Morrison really needs to change pr firms.
That's what he was ringing Jacinda for when she sent him straight to voicemail
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@jegga said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@jegga said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
What about the residents of Christmas Island though? Who I learned today do not even have the right to vote. It was part of Singapore until 1958 when Australia petitioned the UK to give it to them (because of the phosphate).
Since then it seems a dumping ground for any of Aussies problems.
For the second consecutive day - not meaning to be overly woke, but that's a pretty shameful record of exploitation.
Plus it's a bit disingenuous to suggest all 600 evacuees will have contracted the virus.
I don’t think that’s woke at all . I had no idea about that either , that’s bloody awful.
Is SERCO taking care of the 600 or is it part of the government?
Gets better - the government wants those people interned on the island to make a contribution to the cost.
Nice. A fortnight of SERCO rice and chicken and they make you pay for it, Morrison really needs to change pr firms.
That's what he was ringing Jacinda for when she sent him straight to voicemail
She would have probably told him to get pregnant, it’s worked for her
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@barbarian said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
It's one thing to have 16 confirmed cases, but another thing entirely to allow a planeload of 600 likely infected people onto our shores.
What makes them likely? The low level of confirmed cases thus far? You do know we can screen for it on arrival and treat them in existing hospitals like a proper first world nation?
I thought that the issue with this particular disease is it can lie dormant for up to 14 days, which makes screening a little difficult. But I could well be mistaken, I'm not a doctor.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@barbarian said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
It's one thing to have 16 confirmed cases, but another thing entirely to allow a planeload of 600 likely infected people onto our shores.
What makes them likely? The low level of confirmed cases thus far? You do know we can screen for it on arrival and treat them in existing hospitals like a proper first world nation?
Particularly given since it was reported it doesn't seem to be any worse than influenza both in terms of contagiousness and virulence:
CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.
You make a compelling case for not evacuating anyone. Why bother, won't make a lick of difference, infection rate very low etc. etc.
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@rotated said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@barbarian said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
It's one thing to have 16 confirmed cases, but another thing entirely to allow a planeload of 600 likely infected people onto our shores.
What makes them likely? The low level of confirmed cases thus far? You do know we can screen for it on arrival and treat them in existing hospitals like a proper first world nation?
Particularly given since it was reported it doesn't seem to be any worse than influenza both in terms of contagiousness and virulence:
CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.
You make a compelling case for not evacuating anyone. Why bother, won't make a lick of difference, infection rate very low etc. etc.
Well that's not my argument, but whatever.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@rotated said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@barbarian said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
It's one thing to have 16 confirmed cases, but another thing entirely to allow a planeload of 600 likely infected people onto our shores.
What makes them likely? The low level of confirmed cases thus far? You do know we can screen for it on arrival and treat them in existing hospitals like a proper first world nation?
Particularly given since it was reported it doesn't seem to be any worse than influenza both in terms of contagiousness and virulence:
CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.
You make a compelling case for not evacuating anyone. Why bother, won't make a lick of difference, infection rate very low etc. etc.
Well that's not my argument, but whatever.
Clearly. But it's a fine line to walk - serious enough for a government led evacuation, not serious enough to take precautions in releasing them into the general populous.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@jegga so insensitive!
Why is the race relations bloke boring is with his opinion on it?