The thread of learning something new every day
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@taniwharugby said in The thread of learning something new every day:
Apparently something like 10,000 people that play the National Lottery (UK) every week, pick the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6...
Are they not just as likely to come up as any other numbers? Slightly lacking in imagination though.
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@Snowy statistically I assume having 6 sequential numbers (be it 1-6 or 12-18 etc) come up must be much higher odds that 6 non-sequential?
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@taniwharugby said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Snowy statistically I assume having 6 sequential numbers (be it 1-6 or 12-18 etc) come up must be much higher odds that 6 non-sequential?
Not if the draw is fair, all balls are equally weighted, etc. Each ball is a mutually exclusive event, the previous one has already happened. If a one was first, a two is just as likely as any other number. I studied stats at uni and it never seemed quite right to me, but I believe it to be true - never seen it of course, but I've never picked the winning lotto numbers either.
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@Snowy said in The thread of learning something new every day:
Not if the draw is fair, all balls are equally weighted, etc. Each ball is a mutually exclusive event, the previous one has already happened. If a one was first, a two is just as likely as any other number. I studied stats at uni and it never seemed quite right to me, but I believe it to be true - never seen it of course, but I've never picked the winning lotto numbers either.
fuck your 'facts' in my mind, it is less likely.
Anyway, lets say the Lottery was £10,000,000, split between 10,000 people...
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@taniwharugby said in The thread of learning something new every day:
Anyway, lets say the Lottery was £10,000,000, split between 10,000 people...
That changes it completely as to the pay out. The odds of 10,000 people taking the same numbers as your are significantly different.
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@Snowy tahts what I mean, everyone that plays the lottery, does so in hopes of the winning the big one, but given there are supposedly c10,000 people picking those same numbers, and they come up, your big one, just turned into fuck all.
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@taniwharugby said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Snowy tahts what I mean, everyone that plays the lottery, does so in hopes of the winning the big one, but given there are supposedly c10,000 people picking those same numbers, and they come up, your big one, just turned into fuck all.
Yep. Statistically there are actually some sequences that come up more often but it also depends on the number of events. The theory is that if you did it often enough it would all be equal. Sequential or not.
Sharing the money among winners does make winning a lottery less rewarding monetarily as you say. There are ways around that but as it stands if you happen to pick exactly the same number as everybody else then the return is obvious.
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@dogmeat I googled that, and started reading this...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno's_paradoxes
now have a headache
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@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
this talk reminds me that I once tried to convince the constabulary from writing me a speeding ticket by citing Zeno's paradox. Illogical logic just never wins
Correct, it doesn't.
I can just see you sitting there in an S5 explaining "but officer motion is just an illusion"
There are a few of Zeno's paradoxes so maybe you used a different one?
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@Snowy there's seven aren't there? Yeah infinite divisibility of time and wasn't in an Audi. Try a 1958 metallic blue and purple CA Bedford van, me with hair down mid back and just a mattress and about 10 dozen beer in the back. In Dargaville.
Cop tried to get me for going through a stop sign as well but Zeno did manage to convince him that was impossible... I think he just wanted to get rid of me. Not the first - won't be the last.
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@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Snowy there's seven aren't there? Yeah infinite divisibility of time and wasn't in an Audi. Try a 1958 metallic blue and purple CA Bedford van, me with hair down mid back and just a mattress and about 10 dozen beer in the back. In Dargaville.
Cop tried to get me for going through a stop sign as well but Zeno did manage to convince him that was impossible... I think he just wanted to get rid of me. Not the first - won't be the last.
Re Zeno - something like that. I think a couple are basically the same so can add or subtract.
Even a hippy in a fuck truck full of piss, can talk to a cop in Dargaville about paradox. Excellent.
We put a V8 in a Bedford van as a service vehicle for a rally car. It was faster than the car.
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@Snowy said in The thread of learning something new every day:
We put a V8 in a Bedford van as a service vehicle for a rally car. It was faster than the car.
That made me laugh as all I could imagine was a massive Bedford van over taking a ford escort (or the like) on the outside of a gravel hairpin corner
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@Hooroo said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Snowy said in The thread of learning something new every day:
We put a V8 in a Bedford van as a service vehicle for a rally car. It was faster than the car.
That made me laugh as all I could imagine was a massive Bedford van over taking a ford escort (or the like) on the outside of a gravel hairpin corner
Pretty much how it worked. It was usually a "relatively" straight line to be fair to the Chevette (surprisingly good rally car when completely rebuilt). Support crew just need to be involved.
Corners weren't a thing for the Bedford on any road to be fair.We were young, and seriously bloody stupid, so it all just happened without any deaths surprisingly.
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I learned about a museum dedictaed to hangover stories...
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@taniwharugby there's a new thread! 😉
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Fascinating thread BTW guys. Love the airships, I've always had a bit of a fascination with them as I have a weird memory of being really young and seeing one, bear in mind I was born in 1985 so it must have been a balloon but my memory is of it moving through the air above Birmingham Town centre, right above the markets.
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@R-L You could easily have seen one in the 80's
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And also, on this day in 1940
The Second World War arrived in New Zealand with a bang when German mines sank the trans-Pacific liner Niagara off Northland’s Bream Head. The sinking shocked the public and shattered any illusions that distance would protect these islands from enemy attack.
The Orion, a German raider disguised as a merchant ship, had slipped undetected into New Zealand waters and laid 228 contact mines in the approaches to the Hauraki Gulf on the night of 13/14 June 1940. At 3.40 a.m. on the 19th, the 13,415-ton Niagara, which had just left Auckland on its regular run to Suva and Vancouver, struck two mines and sank quickly by the bow. Fortunately, all 349 passengers and crew got away safely in 18 lifeboats; the only casualty was the ship’s cat, Aussie.
Also lost was the ship’s secret cargo of small-arms ammunition and gold ingots worth £2.5 million (equivalent to nearly $250 million today). In late 1941, an epic salvage effort recovered almost all of the gold from the wreck, which lay at a depth of 60 fathoms (110 m).
Museum of Hangovers
Airship Industries - Wikipedia
