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    @Bovidae I know, but right now we have no engagement with JRFU at all.

    6N has the right season timing, and Japan playing in their comp. We should have some linkage there - although the seasons are really hard, the timing is great for us (and them).

    Someone above said NZR has no mates, and it's kinda right. If the ABs trip up and stop being the dominant international force, I don't think we have a Plan B.

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    We don't know who NZR has been talking to, as all the news coming from Aust has been Fox spin.

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    @nzzp said in NH International Rugby:

    @Bovidae I know, but right now we have no engagement with JRFU at all.

    6N has the right season timing, and Japan playing in their comp. We should have some linkage there - although the seasons are really hard, the timing is great for us (and them).

    Someone above said NZR has no mates, and it's kinda right. If the ABs trip up and stop being the dominant international force, I don't think we have a Plan B.

    You'll have to fall further than David Bowie.

    Stand easy.

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    @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

    You'll have to fall further than David Bowie.

    1998 feels really painful still, losing 5 on the bounce. There is not much at the top level; it only takes a few bad years and you can become a mid pack battler. Our dominance feels fragile -- while we produce amazing talent, it's hard to keep ... and harder even if we aren't making big bucks overseas.

    Money talks, and while C19 is a blip, long term the player drain is really hard to combat. You just have to look at dynasties that fall apart to know that success is never inevitable or long term

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    I wonder how realistic it is that that tournament in November will take place. There's likely to be a second Corona wave in Europe (and worldwide). They can plan all they want, but we'll have to wait and see how this pandemic develops. Who's to say there won't be a third wave?

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    @nzzp said in NH International Rugby:

    @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

    You'll have to fall further than David Bowie.

    1998 feels really painful still, losing 5 on the bounce. There is not much at the top level; it only takes a few bad years and you can become a mid pack battler. Our dominance feels fragile -- while we produce amazing talent, it's hard to keep ... and harder even if we aren't making big bucks overseas.

    Money talks, and while C19 is a blip, long term the player drain is really hard to combat. You just have to look at dynasties that fall apart to know that success is never inevitable or long term

    seriously, market forces should have hammered us 15 years ago, but somehow we got stronger.

    It's not surprising we "have no friends" we are a tiny economy, at the asshole of the world, and we win, a lot. Often by a lot. That's not going to buy you many friends among other unions. Sponsors tables on the other hand...

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    @Stargazer said in NH International Rugby:

    I wonder how realistic it is that that tournament in November will take place. There's likely to be a second Corona wave in Europe (and worldwide). They can plan all they want, but we'll have to wait and see how this pandemic develops. Who's to say there won't be a third wave?

    I have thought it will probably start, but not finish.
    Now, I'm starting to lean towards it maybe not starting.

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    Dates for resumed 6 Nations in October formally confirmed:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53667495

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    Looking doubtful that Japan will take part in the proposed 8 Nations tournament. The ongoing quarantine restrictions between the Uk and France must also be a problem for the organisers.

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    Georgia, come on down

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    Georgia likely to replace Japan in 8 Nations tournament.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53935898

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    @sparky I quite like that 😀

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    Bernard Laporte says the Boks are in advanced stages of talks to take part in UK/Europe 8 Nations tournament:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53968069

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    We're fucked if we don't get the boks in RC long term, don't care about SR, but do for RC

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    @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

    We're fucked if we don't get the boks in RC long term, don't care about SR, but do for RC

    Laporte absolutely hates NZR for not letting the French clubs sign up current ABs. He'd love to fuck over the ABs.

    That said I' d be surprised if Bok fans would rather play in some Mickey Mouse tournament rather than their Old Foe. IMHO the Boks against the ABs is the greatest rivalry in any sport.

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    @sparky I agree, but if the NH are offering more money...

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    @Machpants And if the New Zealand Government are making things unnecessary difficult.....

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    @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

    @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

    We're fucked if we don't get the boks in RC long term, don't care about SR, but do for RC

    Laporte absolutely hates NZR for not letting the French clubs sign up current ABs. He'd love to fuck over the ABs.

    Oh, for heaven sake.

    Hopefully, this will remain the dumbest thing I will read today.

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    @Rapido Are you a fan of loose-cannon Laporte?

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    Chris Foy who normally has good sauces says it's "hogwash"

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