Coronavirus - UK
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow I interpreted that as a different problem Mike. Kids with not enough to eat, which is a serious problem in itself rather than people simply eating shit food, which IMO is much the greater and wider problem. Not having enough to eat IS a problem you can solve with money. The other not so much.
Or am I missing your point?
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
PPE for starters
Handing contracts to mates and then finding out the mates can't deliver. Haven't heard of any giving the money back.They were ordering the stuff on an emergency basis from everyone and everywhere and there are some serious questions to be answered on how the money was spent and on whether we got value for money.
But the only "Tory mates" thing I've read about - apart from fact-free insinuations in the media - is Labour complaining that an order went to a firm run by a former aid to Michael Gove and that it hadn't been delivered. And no money changed hands until it was delivered. Also KPMG & PwC, who get billions for the shambles that is Test and Trace, are Labour donors
I don't think they had much choice. They either went thru the usual 8 week procurement process or left PPE on the shelf to rot to avoid charges of cronyism simply because the company had a Tory connection.
Finally, people complained when Kate Bingham was appointed to run the UK's vaccination program as her husband is a Tory MP - Labour & the media ran a long campaign to get her sacked. She is a leading venture capitalist who specialises in getting drugs to market, worked for free for 9 months and is largely responsible for the UK being able to deliver more jabs in one day than Germany can in a week.
(Long post, sorry, waiting for a phone call )
Point 7, exactly!
If there is a public laundry day, it'll come out in the wash.
I really hope there is a public laundry day. I want to know why the emergency stockpile boxes of PPE ordered via the EU and found to be half-full, weren't checked.
And where the £40Bn (allegedly) spent on Test and Trace went.
But I'm not holding my breath.
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@nostrildamus so did wearing pooh pants but the only other person who got away with that is MC Hammer.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
Re News Media & the pandemic.
I'm going to make a prediction that as it's now looking like the gummint will meet it's Feb 15 target of 13.5m vaccinations, the media will start complaining of failure as the target was too low and it should have been double that.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Erua_ELXAAIR2jY?format=png&name=medium
Seems target is 3.5m next week, so Boris may get there a week early.
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"Up to a fifth of staff in some care home groups have refused a coronavirus vaccine when offered with suggestions that younger workers are more likely to be resistant."
"The majority of care home staff who have been offered the jab are getting vaccinated but data obtained by PA news agency from a number of providers shows between five per cent and 21 per cent of staff offered a vaccine have declined it".
Both of Mrs Meldrew's parents have been receiving 24/7 home care from care companies. At least 6 of their carers have tested positive for Covid and both her parents have contracted Covid, despite being house-bound, but seem to be doing OK. Yet the care companies have pulled their staff due to their positive tests, leaving Mrs M & family to provide 24/7 care for weeks at a time.
So you'll excuse me if I tell 20% of care workers to fuck right off.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
"Up to a fifth of staff in some care home groups have refused a coronavirus vaccine when offered with suggestions that younger workers are more likely to be resistant."
"The majority of care home staff who have been offered the jab are getting vaccinated but data obtained by PA news agency from a number of providers shows between five per cent and 21 per cent of staff offered a vaccine have declined it".
Both of Mrs Meldrew's parents have been receiving 24/7 home care from care companies. At least 6 of their carers have tested positive for Covid and both her parents have contracted Covid, despite being house-bound, but seem to be doing OK. Yet the care companies have pulled their staff due to the positive tests, leaving Mrs M & family to provide 24/7 care for weeks at a time.
So you'll excuse me if I tell 20% of care workers to fuck right off.
What a bunch of fluffybunnies!
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@Victor-Meldrew If I had my way it’d be a case of No Jab, No Job.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
A lot of their carers are BAME and I wonder if they have been influenced by the anti-vaxxers who have targeted minority groups.
That sounds very plausible. Irony is that the stats suggest that they're particularly at risk!
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@Victor-Meldrew yeah on a call with Bonesetta's family last night and aunty works in a care home. 5 staff have refused the jab... interestingly she said most were some of the oldest staff. Go figure.
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@Bones said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Victor-Meldrew yeah on a call with Bonesetta's family last night and aunty works in a care home. 5 staff have refused the jab... interestingly she said most were some of the oldest staff. Go figure.
Trying to look for the good in people so perhaps they think they are making the jab available to more deserving people?
Even then, it's a bit misguided to say the least.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Coronavirus - UK:
Some potentially good news.
"Update 13 Jan: Covid hospital admissions fall in London and the south east for first time since Xmas"
NHS deaths by date seems to be indicating that English mortality second wave peak will be 8 January, give or take a day.
Latest numbers suggest London and South East on way down (slightly) but other regions of England about to hit top.
Today's still suggesting London may have peaked last Friday. South East spike on Tuesday? Rest of Engand plateauing.
Now looks like this week will be peak for country as a whole.
Latest figures still show London peaking last weekend, with Tuesday peak for England as a whole.
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@pakman said in Coronavirus - UK:
UK getting act together: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/16/britain-will-able-vaccinate-nation-against-new-covid-strains/
This was all I could read, but seems enough.
"Britain will be able to vaccinate the entire nation against dangerous new Covid strains within four months after a £158m super-factory opens later this year, The Telegraph can disclose...."
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If anyone was unsure that Drakeford is not up to the task in Wales this strategic mistake / miscommunication just confirmed it.
"Mark Drakeford said one of the reasons more of the supply had not been used at once was to prevent "vaccinators standing around with nothing to do".
This is a fucking sprint not a marathon.
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
If anyone was unsure that Drakeford is not up to the task in Wales this strategic mistake / miscommunication just confirmed it.
"Mark Drakeford said one of the reasons more of the supply had not been used at once was to prevent "vaccinators standing around with nothing to do".
This is a fucking sprint not a marathon.
Yeah, I saw that this morning. Couldn't believe the idiocy of it so has assumed something is lost somewhere in translation.
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@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
If anyone was unsure that Drakeford is not up to the task in Wales this strategic mistake / miscommunication just confirmed it.
"Mark Drakeford said one of the reasons more of the supply had not been used at once was to prevent "vaccinators standing around with nothing to do".
This is a fucking sprint not a marathon.
Yeah, I saw that this morning. Couldn't believe the idiocy of it so has assumed something is lost somewhere in translation.
Which is why I wrote 'strategic mistake / miscommunication' but other members of the Senedd who have attempted to clarify Drakeford's position have just muddied the waters.
Shambles.
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@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MajorRage said in Coronavirus - UK:
@MiketheSnow said in Coronavirus - UK:
If anyone was unsure that Drakeford is not up to the task in Wales this strategic mistake / miscommunication just confirmed it.
"Mark Drakeford said one of the reasons more of the supply had not been used at once was to prevent "vaccinators standing around with nothing to do".
This is a fucking sprint not a marathon.
Yeah, I saw that this morning. Couldn't believe the idiocy of it so has assumed something is lost somewhere in translation.
Which is why I wrote 'strategic mistake / miscommunication' but other members of the Senedd who have attempted to clarify Drakeford's position have just muddied the waters.
Shambles.
With all due respect to Wales, it's classic council-like behaviour. Zero forward planning, with extreme wastage on optics.