All Blacks 2021

[Stargazer]

@frank White boys? WTF?

[Tim]

@stargazer It's an old Fern cliche from some commentator's (pretty ill informed) quip about "safe white boys" in the backline. It's generally used ironically or semi-ironically here.

[Frank]

@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

@frank White boys? WTF?

It's a phrase used here in the past (begun by me I think) to describe no flair safe players (who often happen to be Cantabrians and white- but not always) Think George Bridge, Aaron Mauger kind of vibe. Shannon Frizell falls into the category of a safe brown boy.

[Stargazer]

@frank I don't see the need to add skin colour. Just keep it to "safe" if you feel the need to use a stupid comment from a stupid commentator.

[Frank]

@stargazer said in All Blacks 2021:

@frank I don't see the need to add skin colour. Just keep it to "safe".

Nah - safe white boy is way funnier.

[Toddy]

@tim said in All Blacks 2021:

402 days since Argentina last played. Destroyed the ABs in the worst performance I've seen since the Mains era. Lomax smashed up front, Frizell had the worst performance by an AB 6 since Todd Blackadder, and actually probably a lot further back. Really hope neither of those bums ever play for NZ again.

This type of effort can never be tolerated again. Foster should probably have resigned after this disaster.

Those are the stakes when you select favourite project players and "workrate" chumps.

No call out for Tuipulotu? The guy was fucking terrible in that game. One of the laziest All Black locking performances you'll ever see.

[Tim]

@toddy said in All Blacks 2021:

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He was poor in that game too. But Frizell and Lomax were abysmal. Unlike those two, he's had strong games for the ABs too.

Additionally, Matera had a completely free reign in that match.

[Stargazer]

@toddy Can't criticise a Blues player, don't you know that?

[Bovidae]

Who were the ABs playing when Clarke dropped the ball on the goal line?

[Toddy]

@tim I'd argue that Frizzel and Tuipulotu are about evens in their AB performances to date.

Lomax shouldn't be in the team full stop.

[Kiwiwomble]

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[Tim]

@toddy Absolutely cannot remember a single adequate performance by Frizell, whereas Tuipulotu had a great game starting against australia in 2019, and some good performances off the bench.

Still has underperformed at test level.

[Tim]

Anyway, thanks for some good replies @Toddy, it's been good to get some energy in the AB selection thread.

[Kiwiwomble]

@tim hold on…are you saying you DONT rate frizell?!

[KiwiMurph]

@bovidae said in All Blacks 2021:

Who were the ABs playing when Clarke dropped the ball on the goal line?

Argie in Newcastle (final game) from memory.

[Bones]

@frank said in All Blacks 2021:

Aaron Mauger

Astonishing talent.

[Tim]

@bones Now that's what I call irony volume 4.

[Bones]

@tim said in All Blacks 2021:

@bones Now that's what I call irony volume 4.

You can't tell me you haven't watched him play and been astonished.

[Tim]

@bones Well those all those times he seemed to have an attacking player covered but ended up grasping at thin air were definitely some kind of magic performance.

[Toddy]

@tim said in All Blacks 2021:

@toddy Absolutely cannot remember a single adequate performance by Frizell, whereas Tuipulotu had a great game starting against australia in 2019, and some good performances off the bench.

Still has underperformed at test level.

Frizzel put in a motm performance against Argentina in 2018.

He wouldn't be my AB blindside but I think his performances are comparable to Patty. Stands out at Super level and has struggled to make the step up.