Poll: Foster reappointment
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@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@gt12 said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@act-crusader said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@bovidae said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
depends - does he think Bridge is one of our premier wingers or not?
If Robertson was the AB coach do you seriously think he wouldn't have selected Bridge in his squad? And he would have picked Bridge ahead of Clarke last year too.
The problem with having a coach going straight from a Super/provincial team to coach the ABs is that they tend to revert to selecting the players they know and are most familiar with. We saw that with Mains and Thorburn in the early 1990s and Mitchell and Deans with the Cantablacks.
Robertson is pretty consultative (still reading my emails Razor…) and I reckon he would’ve been on the phone quick smart with Rangi about the Blues players that he would’ve been eyeing out.
And let’s get the facts right about Mitchell and Deans, they did select Maling, Willis, Douggie and Tana 😎
Plus the Myth, correct? And Mealamu? And McCaw of course. And Carter. You can say a lot about those crazy bastards but they got the process started for what happened in 2011.
and dropped Christian. For that, I will always wallow in bitterness, bile and anger when I think of The Journey
But unearthed Auckland’s brightest star and made him an All Black.
Ben Atiga.
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@act-crusader said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@gt12 said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@act-crusader said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@bovidae said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
depends - does he think Bridge is one of our premier wingers or not?
If Robertson was the AB coach do you seriously think he wouldn't have selected Bridge in his squad? And he would have picked Bridge ahead of Clarke last year too.
The problem with having a coach going straight from a Super/provincial team to coach the ABs is that they tend to revert to selecting the players they know and are most familiar with. We saw that with Mains and Thorburn in the early 1990s and Mitchell and Deans with the Cantablacks.
Robertson is pretty consultative (still reading my emails Razor…) and I reckon he would’ve been on the phone quick smart with Rangi about the Blues players that he would’ve been eyeing out.
And let’s get the facts right about Mitchell and Deans, they did select Maling, Willis, Douggie and Tana 😎
Plus the Myth, correct? And Mealamu? And McCaw of course. And Carter. You can say a lot about those crazy bastards but they got the process started for what happened in 2011.
and dropped Christian. For that, I will always wallow in bitterness, bile and anger when I think of The Journey
But unearthed Auckland’s brightest star and made him an All Black.
Ben Atiga.
A dwarven All Black, but an All Black nonetheless
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@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@voodoo said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
Other than Robertson, who else would put their hands up?
Gatland
MacdonaldThe best coaches didn't even bother applying last time (which tells you something abuot the process): Joseph, Rennie, Brown
Well those named coaches already had jobs lat time with countries who don't ask for applications, so a little bit of a furphy there mate. Joseph was already with Japan, and Rennie was with Aus
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@booboo said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
Alright folks, time to put your money where your mouth is.
I'm still firmly of the opinion I've seen enough that I'd be looking to move on from Foster. I don't think he has developed much of our game, and selections have been consistently haphazard. To me, on his body of work, he should be gooooooorne
77% winning record
Retained Bledisloe twice
Won Rugby Championship
Record winning score against Australia (under super coach Rennie to boot)Lost 23% of his games
We've held the BC for 19 years and this Wallabies incarnation is incredibly green
Won RC missing the World Champs
The '98 side would smash these Wobblies. They're dross -
@dan54 said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@voodoo said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
Other than Robertson, who else would put their hands up?
Gatland
MacdonaldThe best coaches didn't even bother applying last time (which tells you something abuot the process): Joseph, Rennie, Brown
Well those named coaches already had jobs lat time with countries who don't ask for applications, so a little bit of a furphy there mate. Joseph was already with Japan, and Rennie was with Aus
couldn't disagree more. They didn't throw their hats in the ring because the process looked so rigged to reappoint Foster.
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So what do we think he needs to do to keep his job ?
Could the boks games decide it ?
if we lost 2-0 would that be see ya later ?
I think if he went though undefeated this year it would be difficult to replace him despite what people think of him .
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@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
despite what people think of him .
A somewhat likeable buffoon is not who I want as AB coach myself. He just doesn't come across as very smart. Personality and some selections would attest to this as well as his history.
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@snowy said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
despite what people think of him .
A somewhat likeable buffoon is not who I want as AB coach myself. He just doesn't come across as very smart. Personality and some selections would attest to this as well as his history.
yeah im not in his fanclub either ,
but he was that same person when they appointed him, so you would think it would require something bad for them to do an about face , and if this season is successful well , its hard to see it happening isnt it ?
unless im missing something ?
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@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@dan54 said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@voodoo said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
Other than Robertson, who else would put their hands up?
Gatland
MacdonaldThe best coaches didn't even bother applying last time (which tells you something abuot the process): Joseph, Rennie, Brown
Well those named coaches already had jobs lat time with countries who don't ask for applications, so a little bit of a furphy there mate. Joseph was already with Japan, and Rennie was with Aus
couldn't disagree more. They didn't throw their hats in the ring because the process looked so rigged to reappoint Foster.
That's the problem - they are essentially appointing the coach, so they should just do that. I don't see it as much different to a board essentially appointing a CEO (after some secret meetings/interviews). The NZRFU is the problem.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
unless im missing something ?
The glimmer of hope is that the reappointment isn't until the end of the year. Of course, actually finding an alternative that isn't active in NZ right now isn't likely.
most likely outcome: Foster gets reappointed, Robertson comes in as assistant (perhaps along with another ).
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@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@snowy said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
despite what people think of him .
A somewhat likeable buffoon is not who I want as AB coach myself. He just doesn't come across as very smart. Personality and some selections would attest to this as well as his history.
yeah im not in his fanclub either ,
but he was that same person when they appointed him, so you would think it would require something bad for them to do an about face , and if this season is successful well , its hard to see it happening isnt it ?
unless im missing something ?
Unfortunately, I agree with all of that. Unless I am missing the same thing.
@nzzp Hasn't Robertson said, head coach or nothing?
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@nzzp said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
unless im missing something ?
The glimmer of hope is that the reappointment isn't until the end of the year. Of course, actually finding an alternative that isn't active in NZ right now isn't likely.
most likely outcome: Foster gets reappointed, Robertson comes in as assistant (perhaps along with another ).
Why Would Robertson want to be associated and connected to Foster's coaching campaign,He may die with Foster without being able to have a shot doing it his way.
Sensible to wait and hope he gets a chance as Head Coach,Then at least if he fails it all on him,And he had a real crack at it. -
@snowy said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@snowy said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
despite what people think of him .
A somewhat likeable buffoon is not who I want as AB coach myself. He just doesn't come across as very smart. Personality and some selections would attest to this as well as his history.
yeah im not in his fanclub either ,
but he was that same person when they appointed him, so you would think it would require something bad for them to do an about face , and if this season is successful well , its hard to see it happening isnt it ?
unless im missing something ?
Unfortunately, I agree with all of that. Unless I am missing the same thing.
@nzzp Hasn't Robertson said, head coach or nothing?
Yup and he is signed until a yer after the RWC so at least we won; lose him. Rennie et al, whether they saw it as a rigged process I don’t know. But the fact that the process was so late they would have to try for ABs coach and turn down offers they had already. Dumb, the other countries did their process much earlier, NZR left it far too late.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
So what do we think he needs to do to keep his job ?
Could the boks games decide it ?
if we lost 2-0 would that be see ya later ?
I think if he went though undefeated this year it would be difficult to replace him despite what people think of him .
I’d expect retaking the No 1 ranking, which will be hard, and not losing the up front battle to SA, Wales, France, Arg, or Ireland. A loss in there is OK, 100% is hard. But no improvement in our ‘physical dominance’ type stuff means he should go.
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@machpants did he say that or was it just the forwards coach?
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@nostrildamus said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@machpants did he say that or was it just the forwards coach?
Rennie? Yeah he said he took the ozzie job as it was offered months before ABs even officially opened their's
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@machpants ah no sorry:
"But no improvement in our ‘physical dominance’ type stuff means he should go."
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@nostrildamus said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@machpants ah no sorry:
"But no improvement in our ‘physical dominance’ type stuff means he should go."
A reference to Foster I assumed.And plumtree, both have mentioned it multiple times
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@chris well thats how Foster got the gig....
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@taniwharugby said in Poll: Foster reappointment:
@chris well thats how Foster got the gig....
The Whole problem right there,Nothing fresh at all for a million years.
Under that stupid system Plumtree is next AB Coach,God help us
