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  • DuluthD Offline
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    It's time for the Hurricanes to hand the keys to Aidan Morgan

    It's time for the Hurricanes to hand the keys to Aidan Morgan

    It is quite clear that Aidan Morgan and Ruben Love are the future, but they should also be the present right now.

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    @Duluth said in Hurricanes 2022:

    It's time for the Hurricanes to hand the keys to Aidan Morgan

    It's time for the Hurricanes to hand the keys to Aidan Morgan

    It is quite clear that Aidan Morgan and Ruben Love are the future, but they should also be the present right now.

    Ah, so @Canes4life's real name is Ben Smith. 😉

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    @Nepia lol when have I said I preffered Morgan to Love?

    He's not wrong though, the Canes are going to need to make a decision at some stage on who their no1 general is. Right now Ruben Love is injured so it's a good opportunity for Morgan to showcase his talent.

    Who knows, if they end up shifting Jordie into 12, then Ruben's long term position could be fullback.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:

    lol when have I said I preffered Morgan to Love?

    I didn't read the article - just the sentence in the pic. That fluffs both of them.

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    @Nepia I think they both have futures in the game and have shown potential at their very raw ages. They both have alot of growing to do over the next couple years, don't get me wrong, but that's to be expected.

    I think they have both performed admirably so far and I can't wait to see what they do for the Canes going forward. I do feel Aiden Morgan is probably the more natural 10 in terms of running a backline, whereas Ruben Love looks to be more of a fullback turned 10 who is more than capable in that position aswell.

    I guess the Canes will need to pick the Number 1 eventually but I think both of them need more time in the saddle before those decisions can be made.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:

    I think they have both performed admirably so far and I can't wait to see what they do for the Canes going forward. I do feel Aiden Morgan is probably the more natural 10 in terms of running a backline, whereas Ruben Love looks to be more of a fullback turned 10 who is more than capable in that position aswell.

    I guess the Canes will need to pick the Number 1 eventually but I think both of them need more time in the saddle before those decisions can be made.

    To run a backline really well the10 needs a good all-round game - so would prefer Love because he has a bit more pace & also has the longer punt to exit us out of trouble from deep in our territory... 9 & 10 are your playmakers, so very important, so lets select a 9/10 combo & stick with it.

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    Moorby is a better fullback than Love. The latter should be used mainly as a first five IMO.

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    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense... instead put those ABs on the bench where they can benefit their teams, also they'd feel more involved with their side & in general won't have to play too much game time.

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    @cgrant said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Moorby is a better fullback than Love. The latter should be used mainly as a first five IMO.

    Yeah, Love suits 1st-five better than 15... Moorby looks a very good player.

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    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    9 & 10 are your playmakers, so very important, so lets select a 9/10 combo & stick with it.

    Whoever that ten ends up being in the long run, I hope we end up persisting with Cam Roigard at halfback aswell. He seems to be a smart footballer and has a sound kicking game which will take pressure off whoever that first five may be.

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    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @Nepia lol when have I said I preffered Morgan to Love?

    He's not wrong though, the Canes are going to need to make a decision at some stage on who their no1 general is. Right now Ruben Love is injured so it's a good opportunity for Morgan to showcase his talent.

    Who knows, if they end up shifting Jordie into 12, then Ruben's long term position could be fullback.

    I'd have Love as an impact player, suits the super-sub role better than a snail paced JGB.

    Morgan
    Rayasi
    PUJ
    Sullivan
    Moorby/Goosen
    Barrett

    22-Love, 23-Proctor.

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    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

    Having them on the bench though isn't running them into the ground.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2022:

    I'd have Love as an impact player, suits the super-sub role better than a snail paced JGB.

    JGB played well off the bench in the last match with some very good option taking... we need our best 10 to play most of the match, as mentioned reckon that's Love.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    9 & 10 are your playmakers, so very important, so lets select a 9/10 combo & stick with it.

    Whoever that ten ends up being in the long run, I hope we end up persisting with Cam Roigard at halfback aswell. He seems to be a smart footballer and has a sound kicking game which will take pressure off whoever that first five may be.

    Yeah, he does look a good 9 & his option taking is pretty good.

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    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

    Having them on the bench though isn't running them into the ground.

    it is mentally.

    Their rest weeks are away form the environment, refreshing and relaxing. Prepping for a game and sitting on the bench is less physcially demanding, but doesn't reduce training load or mentally refresh people.

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    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

    Hasn’t been the case this season for the Crusaders never played the same 23 2 games in a row.
    What with injuries,Suspensions,AB rest weeks
    AB’s have had heaps of rest in the Crusaders enviroment this season.

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    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

    Having them on the bench though isn't running them into the ground.

    it is mentally.

    Their rest weeks are away form the environment, refreshing and relaxing. Prepping for a game and sitting on the bench is less physcially demanding, but doesn't reduce training load or mentally refresh people.

    Fair point, but don't think they've got the balance right, reckon it's part of the reason why the ABs are not performing that well - coaches could reduce the ABs work load at practice knowing they'll be on the bench in the next game... also on the other side of it every point is crucial, so if your best players are not available in matches could really hurt your chances of making the playoffs or securing home advantage.

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    @Chris they have, this season.

    The last few years though, Whitelock and Taylor in particular have played virtually the whole campaign

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    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @nzzp said in Hurricanes 2022:

    @NZbloke said in Hurricanes 2022:

    Resting ABs completely in matches is a nonsense...

    except managing the mental and physical workload of ABs is one reason why we keep them here in NZ. We don't tend to run our players into the ground, which keeps them fresher and extends their career.

    Playing ABs right through Super leaves them gassed for the internationals (Robertson, looking at you buddy)

    Having them on the bench though isn't running them into the ground.

    it is mentally.

    Their rest weeks are away form the environment, refreshing and relaxing. Prepping for a game and sitting on the bench is less physcially demanding, but doesn't reduce training load or mentally refresh people.

    I wonder what sports science would have to say about mental refreshment and everyone else's daily 9-5 grind, with 4 weeks of holidays per year?

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