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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    Didn't see a consolidated thread. so to start with is Kobus Wiese’s "Perfect XV" from https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/kobus-wieses-perfect-xv1/

    1. Os du Randt
    2. Uli Schmidt
    3. Olo Brown
    4. Martin Johnson
    5. John Eales
    6. Michael Jones
    7. Ruben Kruger
    8. Zinzan Brooke
    9. Joost van der Westhuizen
    10. Naas Botha
    11. Jonah Lomu
    12. Frank Bunce
    13. Danie Gerber
    14. David Campese
    15. Andre Joubert
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  • NepiaN Offline
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    I know he's a Saffa and would have grown up worshipping Botha, but surely you can't overlook DC these days.

    Good idea for a thread.

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    @Nepia Yeah, the two standouts for me that are "controversial" are at 10 & 15. I can only imagine Kobus is selecting players from his era that he played with and against.

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    @antipodean Good team. Clearly I'd have McCaw, Carter and Cullen or Blanco ahead of Kruger, Botha and Joubert, but the rest of that team is credible.

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  • MN5M Online
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    A South African picking lots of South Africans in his team. Crazy stuff.

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    Bit of a joke this one. Akona Ndungane's:

    Jul 8, 2023  /  Features

    Akona Ndungane's Perfect XV

    Akona Ndungane's Perfect XV

    The former Springbok wing selects a team of the best he played with and against for SA Rugby magazine.

    1. Os du Randt
    2. John Smit
    3. Owen Franks
    4. Bakkies Botha
    5. Victor Matfield
    6. Richie McCaw
    7. Juan Smith
    8. Bob Skinstad
    9. Fourie du Preez
    10. Dan Carter
    11. Bryan Habana
    12. Tana Umaga
    13. Jaque Fourie
    14. Odwa Ndungane
    15. Jason Robinson

    I'm sure half that team have a losing percentage.

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    @antipodean said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    Bit of a joke this one. Akona Ndungane's:

    Jul 8, 2023  /  Features

    Akona Ndungane's Perfect XV

    Akona Ndungane's Perfect XV

    The former Springbok wing selects a team of the best he played with and against for SA Rugby magazine.

    1. Os du Randt
    2. John Smit
    3. Owen Franks
    4. Bakkies Botha
    5. Victor Matfield
    6. Richie McCaw
    7. Juan Smith
    8. Bob Skinstad
    9. Fourie du Preez
    10. Dan Carter
    11. Bryan Habana
    12. Tana Umaga
    13. Jaque Fourie
    14. Odwa Ndungane
    15. Jason Robinson

    I'm sure half that team have a losing percentage.

    What’s the problem? The way I see it he’s picked a bunch of really good players plus Bobby Skinstad and his twin brother

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    @MN5 said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    What’s the problem? The way I see it he’s picked a bunch of really good players plus Bobby Skinstad and his twin brother

    You just described the problem. It's called "Perfect XV". Smit, Skinstad, du Preez, Fourie and Nudungane aren't in the discussion.

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  • MN5M Online
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    @antipodean said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    @MN5 said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    What’s the problem? The way I see it he’s picked a bunch of really good players plus Bobby Skinstad and his twin brother

    You just described the problem. It's called "Perfect XV". Smit, Skinstad, du Preez, Fourie and Nudungane aren't in the discussion.

    It’s not antipodeans perfect XV so you can’t complain

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    @MN5 said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    @antipodean said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    @MN5 said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    What’s the problem? The way I see it he’s picked a bunch of really good players plus Bobby Skinstad and his twin brother

    You just described the problem. It's called "Perfect XV". Smit, Skinstad, du Preez, Fourie and Nudungane aren't in the discussion.

    It’s not antipodeans perfect XV so you can’t complain

    Ahh, this is the Fern. Of course I can complain.

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    @antipodean said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    @MN5 said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    What’s the problem? The way I see it he’s picked a bunch of really good players plus Bobby Skinstad and his twin brother

    You just described the problem. It's called "Perfect XV". Smit, Skinstad, du Preez, Fourie and Nudungane aren't in the discussion.

    If looking at the last 10-15 years I could see a case for du Preez and even Fourie. The others are just parochial choices.

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    @antipodean said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    Smit, Skinstad, du Preez, Fourie and Nudungane aren't in the discussion.

    Isn't saying that about the bold, like saying Richie isn't in the conversation because of Jones?

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    @Bones said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    @antipodean said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    Smit, Skinstad, du Preez, Fourie and Nudungane aren't in the discussion.

    Isn't saying that about the bold, like saying Richie isn't in the conversation because of Jones?

    Fair comment - still parochial.

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    I see Microsoft Bing got drunk and into rugby:
    MSN: The 100 Greatest Rugby Players: The Definitive Ranking

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    @Kruse said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    I see Microsoft Bing got drunk and into rugby:
    MSN: The 100 Greatest Rugby Players: The Definitive Ranking

    Fake news.

    Screenshot_20250304-203610.png

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  • MN5M Online
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    @Kruse said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    I see Microsoft Bing got drunk and into rugby:
    MSN: The 100 Greatest Rugby Players: The Definitive Ranking

    Link doesn't work. Looks like the only one drinking is you !

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    @Bones said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    @Kruse said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    I see Microsoft Bing got drunk and into rugby:
    MSN: The 100 Greatest Rugby Players: The Definitive Ranking

    Fake news.

    wot, MSN with a clickbait headline? Surely not

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  • KruseK Offline
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    Oh FFS - MSN gaslighting me.
    It was there - truly.
    You're lucky it's gone - it was one of those horrible slide-shows, so having to click through 100 bloody players, plus 20 ads - to get to "# 1".
    From memory - 1 - Dupont. 2 & 3 - saffa forwards. 5 - Ardie. 11 - Beauden. Jordan in top 10.
    That sort of thing.

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  • KruseK Offline
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    @MN5 said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    Looks like the only one drinking is you !

    ... now there's an idea...
    Don't mind if I do...

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  • MN5M Online
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    @Kruse said in Pundits & ex-players all time XVs:

    Oh FFS - MSN gaslighting me.
    It was there - truly.
    You're lucky it's gone - it was one of those horrible slide-shows, so having to click through 100 bloody players, plus 20 ads - to get to "# 1".
    From memory - 1 - Dupont. 2 & 3 - saffa forwards. 5 - Ardie. 11 - Beauden. Jordan in top 10.
    That sort of thing.

    At fullback I hope aye @Bones

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