Building myself back up
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@Rancid-Schnitzel
Hi! So, she wasn't impressed with your marathon time? Sorry to read that news but look for someone younger
Do you use zone 2 training? I've assumed not, thought you'd be pushing zone 3-4 most of the time since you've got a coach for the swimming, and it's so hard to stay in zone 2 while running. I'd appreciate your comments on that.I've been doing most of my treadmill under 125, sometimes up to 130 for 5 hours a week, ramping up next week. Then Zone 4-5 weekly hill repeats for 40 minutes. Swimming is hard to estimate, focusing on slow 1 arm drills for balance in the water, reckon it's under 130.
I'm also trying to figure out an app/watch/strap/foot pod combo, so if anyone has a suggestion I'm all ears, but I might post that in another thread.
Oh, my Sunday hill workout ....(also did 90 minutes zone 2 in the evening)...Need push myself harder after 10. It's all mental focus and commitment to the pain. I've reached a level now where this workout doesn't leave me very sore.
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@Wairau said in Building myself back up:
@Rancid-Schnitzel
Hi! So, she wasn't impressed with your marathon time? Sorry to read that news but look for someone younger
Do you use zone 2 training? I've assumed not, thought you'd be pushing zone 3-4 most of the time since you've got a coach for the swimming, and it's so hard to stay in zone 2 while running. I'd appreciate your comments on that.I've been doing most of my treadmill under 125, sometimes up to 130 for 5 hours a week, ramping up next week. Then Zone 4-5 weekly hill repeats for 40 minutes. Swimming is hard to estimate, focusing on slow 1 arm drills for balance in the water, reckon it's under 130.
I'm also trying to figure out an app/watch/strap/foot pod combo, so if anyone has a suggestion I'm all ears, but I might post that in another thread.
Oh, my Sunday hill workout ....(also did 90 minutes zone 2 in the evening)...Need push myself harder after 10. It's all mental focus and commitment to the pain. I've reached a level now where this workout doesn't leave me very sore.
294467959_358901486404384_2372141916144601971_n.jpgHa ha. I actually ran it with her (at least at the start). As usual she didn't listen and didn't drink any water until 15km in. Her 30km to 35km time was 53 min. Lack of communication and tunnel vision. Relationship killers ☹️. Met a crossfitter yesterday. Looks very promising 👌. Sensational legs.
Tbh mate I'm very slow to familiarise myself with the more technical aspects of training. Zones mean nothing to me, although I'm getting more into heart rate. But you have piqued my curiosity on this. I think in general that I must be more zone 3-4, but the long swimming sessions on my own would be upper zone 2 probably. I'll just paste my stats. Was early morning, so a poo and pee break required.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel you really swim well, almost 5 km at 1.40 is excellent. I assume you are just cruising, and can go much faster. Breathing every 2,3 or 4? 2? Has the high mileage increased muscle mass? What is your HB at the end of the swim? Using pulse and clock?
Have you tried something like Aerofit?I am only using the cheapest HR strap and myworkouts app, so very basic set up.
Zone 2 is for me is about 105-125 HB, I am guessing. I am fitter and more relaxed because of this.
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@Wairau said in Building myself back up:
@Rancid-Schnitzel you really swim well, almost 5 km at 1.40 is excellent. I assume you are just cruising, and can go much faster. Breathing every 2,3 or 4? 2? Has the high mileage increased muscle mass? What is your HB at the end of the swim? Using pulse and clock?
Have you tried something like Aerofit?I am only using the cheapest HR strap and myworkouts app, so very basic set up.
Zone 2 is for me is about 105-125 HB, I am guessing. I am fitter and more relaxed because of this.
Cheers Mate. I have improved massively in recent months. Wasn't that long ago that 100m was agony. It's only taken about 4 years! I breathe every 2nd or 4th stroke. Wish I could do 3rd but it feels weird.
Looking to get some form.of HRM for swimming but not there yet. According to the Garmin it's around 135 when I finish. The coaching recently has been alot of sprint work. Clearly I have alot to learn about these gadgets and numbers.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel I still haven't decided on the gadgets and app solution. Maybe coros. I swim twice a week, focusing for now on single arm drill for balance in the water, and it keeps HB under 130 so still zone 2, for an hour, with a snorkel. My running is mostly slow, did 7 plus hours this week run or incline walk HB 110-122, then add hill repeats and will be doing more speedwork above 155HB. Will also add 1 run at 130-143HB and 1 of longer repeats at 147-160.
Result of more zone 2:
My regular hill repeats session is faster. 3 weeks ago was at same speed as 6 weeks ago, which was fast. But yesterday through 10 repeats I was 2 minutes faster (24 minutes 40 seconds). Lower HB at tops and bottoms. Less pain and kept going after the 10.OH, I wanted to sympathise with your ex. Maybe she felt she had enough water and didn't want to go to the bathroom so delayed more water intake. Getting the balance of food/water intake takes time and experimentation.
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@Wairau said in Building myself back up:
@Rancid-Schnitzel I still haven't decided on the gadgets and app solution. Maybe coros. I swim twice a week, focusing for now on single arm drill for balance in the water, and it keeps HB under 130 so still zone 2, for an hour, with a snorkel. My running is mostly slow, did 7 plus hours this week run or incline walk HB 110-122, then add hill repeats and will be doing more speedwork above 155HB. Will also add 1 run at 130-143HB and 1 of longer repeats at 147-160.
Result of more zone 2:
My regular hill repeats session is faster. 3 weeks ago was at same speed as 6 weeks ago, which was fast. But yesterday through 10 repeats I was 2 minutes faster (24 minutes 40 seconds). Lower HB at tops and bottoms. Less pain and kept going after the 10.OH, I wanted to sympathise with your ex. Maybe she felt she had enough water and didn't want to go to the bathroom so delayed more water intake. Getting the balance of food/water intake takes time and experimentation.
That's impressive Mate! Yeah the nutritional thing is massive. Going to a dietician helped massively but it's still very individual. Before I never ate before a workout but now always a muesli bar and Granny Smith Apple. Does the job for me.
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So this weekend I completed what was supposed to be the half version of a 24 hours adventure race called Hells Bells. So you'd think it would be over in 12 maybe 14-15 hours. But 25 hours later......
Holy shit what an epic fůck up. Started out ok with a cool run and climb section, but then devolved in a ridiculous bike section that mostly involved pushing the fůcking things up endless steep and muddy inclines then down again because the paths were destroyed. And this was in the dark. I stopped cycling after I flew over the handle bars. Bloody lucky I didn't get badly hurt. Trouble with this thing is that you couldn't quit even if you wanted to. You were miles from nowhere and zero support apparatus. The fůckers also put checkpoints in the wrong place (we spent 6 hours looking for one) and gave false clues (40 metres was actually 150 metres). In the end we covered 104km. Probably dropped a couple of kilos as well.
Happy I finished it I guess but the entire event was a joke and not fun when you are legitimately scared about serious injury.
And in the end all I got was a hat and sticker. Cheap fůcks.
Shining light was that the English crossfitter I'm seeing picked me up after the event and made me forget the horrendous previous 24 hours. Farking shin hurts though from the bike pedal repeatedly smashing into it. Pool tonight will be lovely.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Building myself back up:
So this weekend I completed what was supposed to be the half version of a 24 hours adventure race called Hells Bells. So you'd think it would be over in 12 maybe 14-15 hours. But 25 hours later......
Holy shit what an epic fůck up. Started out ok with a cool run and climb section, but then devolved in a ridiculous bike section that mostly involved pushing the fůcking things up endless steep and muddy inclines then down again because the paths were destroyed. And this was in the dark. I stopped cycling after I flew over the handle bars. Bloody lucky I didn't get badly hurt. Trouble with this thing is that you couldn't quit even if you wanted to. You were miles from nowhere and zero support apparatus. The fůckers also put checkpoints in the wrong place (we spent 6 hours looking for one) and gave false clues (40 metres was actually 150 metres). In the end we covered 104km. Probably dropped a couple of kilos as well.
Happy I finished it I guess but the entire event was a joke and not fun when you are legitimately scared about serious injury.
And in the end all I got was a hat and sticker. Cheap fůcks.
Shining light was that the English crossfitter I'm seeing picked me up after the event and made me forget the horrendous previous 24 hours. Farking shin hurts though from the bike pedal repeatedly smashing into it. Pool tonight will be lovely.
I’ve got quite a dirty mind.
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Well there is more.....
While engaging in some late night...activity, I started feeling weird around the chest and very light-headed. English crossfitter insisted that she drive me to the ER. Had all the scans, tests etc and I was actually very badly dehydrated. Needed 2 bags of IV fluid! It was rather embarrassing explaining to the medical staff what I was doing when the pain occurred 🤣.
Anyway, thankfully heart is in tip top shape. Added bonus is that English crossfitter was amazing during all of it. Early days but the signs are very good.
In terms of training this week, I haven't done anything. Can't run with my injured shin. Plan is to get back into it tomorrow with lots of swim and gym.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Building myself back up:
Well there is more.....
While engaging in some late night...activity, I started feeling weird around the chest and very light-headed. English crossfitter insisted that she drive me to the ER. Had all the scans, tests etc and I was actually very badly dehydrated. Needed 2 bags of IV fluid! It was rather embarrassing explaining to the medical staff what I was doing when the pain occurred 🤣.
Anyway, thankfully heart is in tip top shape. Added bonus is that English crossfitter was amazing during all of it. Early days but the signs are very good.
In terms of training this week, I haven't done anything. Can't run with my injured shin. Plan is to get back into it tomorrow with lots of swim and gym.
Good to hear. Keep monitoring it for a few days.
Haha you got dehydrated since you are a bit selfish in bed
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Building myself back up:
Well there is more.....
While engaging in some late night...activity, I started feeling weird around the chest and very light-headed. English crossfitter insisted that she drive me to the ER. Had all the scans, tests etc and I was actually very badly dehydrated. Needed 2 bags of IV fluid! It was rather embarrassing explaining to the medical staff what I was doing when the pain occurred 🤣.
Anyway, thankfully heart is in tip top shape. Added bonus is that English crossfitter was amazing during all of it. Early days but the signs are very good.
In terms of training this week, I haven't done anything. Can't run with my injured shin. Plan is to get back into it tomorrow with lots of swim and gym.
As if. They probably gave you a high five !
look after yourself pal, DON’t OVERTRAIN !!!!
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One problem I have very infexible/tight quads due to all the hiking. Unable to sit on my heels, even with a cushion under my butt.
I'd really appreciate advice from anyone about stretching them out. I can dedicate the time, but have no plan. Aim, to be reasonably flexible to be able to run faster and prevent injury.How can I improve very inflexible quads?
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@taniwharugby thanks TR, funnily enough, a friend recommended that squat about 6 weeks ago, I got up on Sunday monring before my hill run and tried it out. On my FIRST, I pinged mid thigh. It swelled up, but after 5 days I could run again. The injury has been off and on since then, mostly off, but returned bad on Monday.
I'm too inflexible and it's compromising my regular workouts and limiting my top speed.
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@MN5 said in Building myself back up:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Building myself back up:
Well there is more.....
While engaging in some late night...activity, I started feeling weird around the chest and very light-headed. English crossfitter insisted that she drive me to the ER. Had all the scans, tests etc and I was actually very badly dehydrated. Needed 2 bags of IV fluid! It was rather embarrassing explaining to the medical staff what I was doing when the pain occurred 🤣.
Anyway, thankfully heart is in tip top shape. Added bonus is that English crossfitter was amazing during all of it. Early days but the signs are very good.
In terms of training this week, I haven't done anything. Can't run with my injured shin. Plan is to get back into it tomorrow with lots of swim and gym.
As if. They probably gave you a high five !
look after yourself pal, DON’t OVERTRAIN !!!!
This wasn't my fault Mate. The fůcking adventure race was supposed to be for 12 hours not 25!!!!
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thanks TR, I used your advice and I got in touch with a stretching expert and have a basic recovery and stretching program sketched out. I'll dial back the hill and speedwork sessions for a few days, keep doing zone 2 and add a better stretching routine.
at the moment I am trying to recover by using pool jacuzzi, massaging the scar tissue, gentle stretching.two links:
Wow, she's awesome
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Progress report: have now completed two zone 2 runs (60-70% of my max HB) of 80 and 60 minutes, and followed each with gentle leg stretches while in jacuzzi. And massaged the tear spot, which now doesn't feel hard or swollen. I didn't stretch that area much, but will gradually increase the pressure.
I'm moving the rest to my old thread, thanks RS, sorry to clog up your thread.
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@Wairau said in Building myself back up:
Progress report: have now completed two zone 2 runs (60-70% of my max HB) of 80 and 60 minutes, and followed each with gentle leg stretches while in jacuzzi. And massaged the tear spot, which now doesn't feel hard or swollen. I didn't stretch that area much, but will gradually increase the pressure.
I'm moving the rest to my old thread, thanks RS, sorry to clog up your thread.
All good Mate. You add more interesting content than me! Definitely opened my eyes up to other possibilities.
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Getting back on track after that ludicrous Adventure Race. Still can't run but can now swim a fair bit without the pull buoy. Touch wood, but no pain today. Hopefully good to go next week. Definitely haven't missed the running but haven't had a decent leg day in a while.