The thread of learning something new every day
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@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@voodoo I had to check to see if I had the correct understanding.
I did
You kids' obviously didn't get a proper education.
I asked my wife and the 4 people in my team - we all had it the wrong way!
I feel like I might be the butt of some elaborate prank here...
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@voodoo said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@voodoo I had to check to see if I had the correct understanding.
I did
You kids' obviously didn't get a proper education.
I asked my wife and the 4 people in my team - we all had it the wrong way!
I feel like I might be the butt of some elaborate prank here...
Yeah - I was thinking about this, the fact that so many of us seemed to have it wrong.
Was there some common author that we all read, that also had it wrong? Most of my vocabulary comes from reading... if W.E. Johns, or Alastair MacLean, or Jack Higgins, or Clive Cussler - had it wrong... I could easily have been vocab-infected as a child.
eg: I think there's an example of Mark Twain using "literally" incorrectly, which might have been a factor in today's sad state of understanding/use of that word.
And don't get me started on "acronym"... although I hate to admit defeat, I 'm starting to think the dictionaries should just fucking surrender and update the definition of that word to mean what every fluffybunny thinks it means.
I'm still fucking angry about this.
I'm even willing for the dictionaries to change/update the definition of "acronym", in trade for reversing the definition of "spendthrift". -
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
And don't get me started on "acronym"... although I hate to admit defeat, I 'm starting to think the dictionaries should just fucking surrender and update the definition of that word to mean what every fluffybunny thinks it means.
So, again, I had to look up the definition of the word to see if I had it wrong. I don't - so how is it being misused?
The one that got me was ironical. I would hear people using it and think 'how ironic'. Then I discovered. Ironical is an actual word. That means ironic. Go figure....
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@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
And don't get me started on "acronym"... although I hate to admit defeat, I 'm starting to think the dictionaries should just fucking surrender and update the definition of that word to mean what every fluffybunny thinks it means.
So, again, I had to look up the definition of the word to see if I had it wrong. I don't - so how is it being misused?
The one that got me was ironical. I would hear people using it and think 'how ironic'. Then I discovered. Ironical is an actual word. That means ironic. Go figure....
Acronym - most people use it in place of the correct word - "initialism".
eg: FBI - is NOT an acronym. Because it's pronounced "Eff-Bee-Aye"... spelling out the letters. It's an initialism.
But POTUS - IS an acronym (AND an initiatlism) - because it's pronounced as a "word" - this being the key bit that people ignore.
NZRU - initialism, not acronym.
Laser - acronym, and initialism.
Oh - and I think the definitions are subtly different in various dictionaries, but to my understanding - an acronym is not ALWAYS an initialism.
eg: Benelux - IS an acronym, but NOT an initialism. -
@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse ah Thanks. NASA vs NSA
Yep - exactly.
But - 99% of the english-speaking world uses "acronym" to mean "initialism"... so... it's probably just a matter of time before the definition is simply changed.
I still like to grumpily mutter "initialism" whenever anybody uses "acronym" incorrectly in work meetings though... there's always a confused pause, the start of "what was that?", and the obvious decision to ignore me and just move on. -
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
And don't get me started on "acronym"... although I hate to admit defeat, I 'm starting to think the dictionaries should just fucking surrender and update the definition of that word to mean what every fluffybunny thinks it means.
So, again, I had to look up the definition of the word to see if I had it wrong. I don't - so how is it being misused?
The one that got me was ironical. I would hear people using it and think 'how ironic'. Then I discovered. Ironical is an actual word. That means ironic. Go figure....
Acronym - most people use it in place of the correct word - "initialism".
eg: FBI - is NOT an acronym. Because it's pronounced "Eff-Bee-Aye"... spelling out the letters. It's an initialism.
But POTUS - IS an acronym (AND an initiatlism) - because it's pronounced as a "word" - this being the key bit that people ignore.
NZRU - initialism, not acronym.
Laser - acronym, and initialism.
Oh - and I think the definitions are subtly different in various dictionaries, but to my understanding - an acronym is not ALWAYS an initialism.
eg: Benelux - IS an acronym, but NOT an initialism.Do we have a pedant award in the Fernies, if so you're a lock this year against the your/you're crowd.
I do believe that when words meanings change that dictionaries are slow to change them, despite the fact they're less than 200 years old and had constant shitfights over meanings when they were being developed. I think it's somewhat silly to hold on to a historical definition if the meaning has clearly changed. No doubt I will be a hypocrite and will argue the opposite for a word I like in the future.
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@Nepia said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
And don't get me started on "acronym"... although I hate to admit defeat, I 'm starting to think the dictionaries should just fucking surrender and update the definition of that word to mean what every fluffybunny thinks it means.
So, again, I had to look up the definition of the word to see if I had it wrong. I don't - so how is it being misused?
The one that got me was ironical. I would hear people using it and think 'how ironic'. Then I discovered. Ironical is an actual word. That means ironic. Go figure....
Acronym - most people use it in place of the correct word - "initialism".
eg: FBI - is NOT an acronym. Because it's pronounced "Eff-Bee-Aye"... spelling out the letters. It's an initialism.
But POTUS - IS an acronym (AND an initiatlism) - because it's pronounced as a "word" - this being the key bit that people ignore.
NZRU - initialism, not acronym.
Laser - acronym, and initialism.
Oh - and I think the definitions are subtly different in various dictionaries, but to my understanding - an acronym is not ALWAYS an initialism.
eg: Benelux - IS an acronym, but NOT an initialism.Do we have a pedant award in the Fernies, if so you're a lock this year against the your/you're crowd.
I do believe that when words meanings change that dictionaries are slow to change them, despite the fact they're less than 200 years old and had constant shitfights over meanings when they were being developed. I think it's somewhat silly to hold on to a historical definition if the meaning has clearly changed. No doubt I will be a hypocrite and will argue the opposite for a word I like in the future.
Yeah - like I say - I fully expect the definition to be changed, considering the widespread misuse ('evolution') of it.
BUT - probably the thing stopping it - is that there already IS a perfectly good word for what people think it means.
And by changing the definition of this word - you're actually REMOVING a word from circulation, as there's no longer a word to mean what the current definition.
If that makes sense? If they change the word "acronym" to mean "initialism" - then we no longer have a word which means "abbreviation which is pronounced as a word".Also - I would wear a pedantry award with pride. Words have meanings. For a fucking reason. There's a REASON that "you're" and "your" are two different spellings... they fucking MEAN two different things. The whole goddamn point of language.
"spendthrift".... fuck. What a fluffybunny.
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@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Nepia said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
And don't get me started on "acronym"... although I hate to admit defeat, I 'm starting to think the dictionaries should just fucking surrender and update the definition of that word to mean what every fluffybunny thinks it means.
So, again, I had to look up the definition of the word to see if I had it wrong. I don't - so how is it being misused?
The one that got me was ironical. I would hear people using it and think 'how ironic'. Then I discovered. Ironical is an actual word. That means ironic. Go figure....
Acronym - most people use it in place of the correct word - "initialism".
eg: FBI - is NOT an acronym. Because it's pronounced "Eff-Bee-Aye"... spelling out the letters. It's an initialism.
But POTUS - IS an acronym (AND an initiatlism) - because it's pronounced as a "word" - this being the key bit that people ignore.
NZRU - initialism, not acronym.
Laser - acronym, and initialism.
Oh - and I think the definitions are subtly different in various dictionaries, but to my understanding - an acronym is not ALWAYS an initialism.
eg: Benelux - IS an acronym, but NOT an initialism.Do we have a pedant award in the Fernies, if so you're a lock this year against the your/you're crowd.
I do believe that when words meanings change that dictionaries are slow to change them, despite the fact they're less than 200 years old and had constant shitfights over meanings when they were being developed. I think it's somewhat silly to hold on to a historical definition if the meaning has clearly changed. No doubt I will be a hypocrite and will argue the opposite for a word I like in the future.
Yeah - like I say - I fully expect the definition to be changed, considering the widespread misuse ('evolution') of it.
BUT - probably the thing stopping it - is that there already IS a perfectly good word for what people think it means.
And by changing the definition of this word - you're actually REMOVING a word from circulation, as there's no longer a word to mean what the current definition.
If that makes sense? If they change the word "acronym" to mean "initialism" - then we no longer have a word which means "abbreviation which is pronounced as a word".Also - I would wear a pedantry award with pride. Words have meanings. For a fucking reason. There's a REASON that "you're" and "your" are two different spellings... they fucking MEAN two different things. The whole goddamn point of language.
"spendthrift".... fuck. What a fluffybunny.
They could just keep both words but update the definition of acronym to include the new (and retain the old, they do that right?)
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@Nepia said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Nepia said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
And don't get me started on "acronym"... although I hate to admit defeat, I 'm starting to think the dictionaries should just fucking surrender and update the definition of that word to mean what every fluffybunny thinks it means.
So, again, I had to look up the definition of the word to see if I had it wrong. I don't - so how is it being misused?
The one that got me was ironical. I would hear people using it and think 'how ironic'. Then I discovered. Ironical is an actual word. That means ironic. Go figure....
Acronym - most people use it in place of the correct word - "initialism".
eg: FBI - is NOT an acronym. Because it's pronounced "Eff-Bee-Aye"... spelling out the letters. It's an initialism.
But POTUS - IS an acronym (AND an initiatlism) - because it's pronounced as a "word" - this being the key bit that people ignore.
NZRU - initialism, not acronym.
Laser - acronym, and initialism.
Oh - and I think the definitions are subtly different in various dictionaries, but to my understanding - an acronym is not ALWAYS an initialism.
eg: Benelux - IS an acronym, but NOT an initialism.Do we have a pedant award in the Fernies, if so you're a lock this year against the your/you're crowd.
I do believe that when words meanings change that dictionaries are slow to change them, despite the fact they're less than 200 years old and had constant shitfights over meanings when they were being developed. I think it's somewhat silly to hold on to a historical definition if the meaning has clearly changed. No doubt I will be a hypocrite and will argue the opposite for a word I like in the future.
Yeah - like I say - I fully expect the definition to be changed, considering the widespread misuse ('evolution') of it.
BUT - probably the thing stopping it - is that there already IS a perfectly good word for what people think it means.
And by changing the definition of this word - you're actually REMOVING a word from circulation, as there's no longer a word to mean what the current definition.
If that makes sense? If they change the word "acronym" to mean "initialism" - then we no longer have a word which means "abbreviation which is pronounced as a word".Also - I would wear a pedantry award with pride. Words have meanings. For a fucking reason. There's a REASON that "you're" and "your" are two different spellings... they fucking MEAN two different things. The whole goddamn point of language.
"spendthrift".... fuck. What a fluffybunny.
They could just keep both words but update the definition of acronym to include the new (and retain the old, they do that right?)
Booooo.
Fuck that. You're trying to take away the only moral high ground I've ever had.
Flatten the hill I've pegged out to die on.Goddamn monster.
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@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Nepia said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Nepia said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
And don't get me started on "acronym"... although I hate to admit defeat, I 'm starting to think the dictionaries should just fucking surrender and update the definition of that word to mean what every fluffybunny thinks it means.
So, again, I had to look up the definition of the word to see if I had it wrong. I don't - so how is it being misused?
The one that got me was ironical. I would hear people using it and think 'how ironic'. Then I discovered. Ironical is an actual word. That means ironic. Go figure....
Acronym - most people use it in place of the correct word - "initialism".
eg: FBI - is NOT an acronym. Because it's pronounced "Eff-Bee-Aye"... spelling out the letters. It's an initialism.
But POTUS - IS an acronym (AND an initiatlism) - because it's pronounced as a "word" - this being the key bit that people ignore.
NZRU - initialism, not acronym.
Laser - acronym, and initialism.
Oh - and I think the definitions are subtly different in various dictionaries, but to my understanding - an acronym is not ALWAYS an initialism.
eg: Benelux - IS an acronym, but NOT an initialism.Do we have a pedant award in the Fernies, if so you're a lock this year against the your/you're crowd.
I do believe that when words meanings change that dictionaries are slow to change them, despite the fact they're less than 200 years old and had constant shitfights over meanings when they were being developed. I think it's somewhat silly to hold on to a historical definition if the meaning has clearly changed. No doubt I will be a hypocrite and will argue the opposite for a word I like in the future.
Yeah - like I say - I fully expect the definition to be changed, considering the widespread misuse ('evolution') of it.
BUT - probably the thing stopping it - is that there already IS a perfectly good word for what people think it means.
And by changing the definition of this word - you're actually REMOVING a word from circulation, as there's no longer a word to mean what the current definition.
If that makes sense? If they change the word "acronym" to mean "initialism" - then we no longer have a word which means "abbreviation which is pronounced as a word".Also - I would wear a pedantry award with pride. Words have meanings. For a fucking reason. There's a REASON that "you're" and "your" are two different spellings... they fucking MEAN two different things. The whole goddamn point of language.
"spendthrift".... fuck. What a fluffybunny.
They could just keep both words but update the definition of acronym to include the new (and retain the old, they do that right?)
Booooo.
Fuck that. You're trying to take away the only moral high ground I've ever had.
Flatten the hill I've pegged out to die on.Goddamn monster.
My bad, I withdraw my comment, a man should never interfere with another mans hill to die on.
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@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@dogmeat said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@Kruse said in The thread of learning something new every day:
And don't get me started on "acronym"... although I hate to admit defeat, I 'm starting to think the dictionaries should just fucking surrender and update the definition of that word to mean what every fluffybunny thinks it means.
So, again, I had to look up the definition of the word to see if I had it wrong. I don't - so how is it being misused?
The one that got me was ironical. I would hear people using it and think 'how ironic'. Then I discovered. Ironical is an actual word. That means ironic. Go figure....
Acronym - most people use it in place of the correct word - "initialism".
eg: FBI - is NOT an acronym. Because it's pronounced "Eff-Bee-Aye"... spelling out the letters. It's an initialism.
But POTUS - IS an acronym (AND an initiatlism) - because it's pronounced as a "word" - this being the key bit that people ignore.
NZRU - initialism, not acronym.
Laser - acronym, and initialism.
Oh - and I think the definitions are subtly different in various dictionaries, but to my understanding - an acronym is not ALWAYS an initialism.
eg: Benelux - IS an acronym, but NOT an initialism.
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@Kiwiwomble said in The thread of learning something new every day:
@NTA pics or it didnt happen
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@Tim There are so many examples of that sort of thing.
To go full GOM it appears to be a lack of attention to the three R's People write (or say) what they have misheard. Modern day malapropisms. Some are quite amusing. Some are just weird and some quite (inadvertently) clever. I hear and see them all the time. From the glorious St Cindy down. Just can't recall a specific example at the moment.
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