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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    @Chris What about Kemara and Springer?

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    @Bovidae said in 2023 New Zealand U20s:

    @Chris What about Kemara and Springer?

    Both have injuries atm Springer high ankle sprain and Kemara a broken hand,I suppose they will see what happens with recovery etc.

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    https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-under-20-wider-squad-announced/
    New Zealand Under 20 Squad:
    Ajay Faleafaga (Otago)
    Ben Ake (Auckland)
    Bradley Crichton (Wellington)
    Caleb Tangitau (Auckland)
    Che Clark (Auckland)
    Codemeru Vai (Bay of Plenty)
    Cody Nordstrom (Waikato)
    Cooper Flanders (Hawke’s Bay)
    Essendon Tuitupou (Auckland)
    Fiti Sa (Taranaki)
    Gabe Robinson (Waikato)
    Harry Godfrey (Hawke’s Bay)
    Hunter Morrison (Hawke’s Bay)
    Isaac Hutchinson (Canterbury)
    Jack Taylor (Southland)
    Jordi Viljoen (Manawatū)
    Leo Gordon (Auckland)
    Macca Springer ( Ta$man)
    Malachi Wrampling-Alec (Waikato)
    Malakai Ngatai (Manawatū)
    Maliu Niuafe (Auckland)
    Nic Shearer (Canterbury)
    Noah Hotham ( Ta$man)
    Payton Spencer (Auckland)
    Peter Lakai (Wellington)
    Raymond Tuputupu (Manawatū)
    Sam Hainsworth-Fa’aofo (Auckland)
    Sean Ralph (Waikato)
    Semisi Tupou Ta’eiloa (Otago)
    Siale Lauaki (Wellington)
    Taha Kemara (Waikato)
    Tahlor Cahill (Canterbury)
    Toby Bell (Canterbury)
    Tom Allen (Hawke’s Bay)
    Vernon Bason (Manawatū)
    Will Martin (Waikato)
    Will Stodart (Otago)
    Xavi Taele (Auckland)

    The final squad of 30 for the U20 World Rugby Championship in South Africa will be announced on Monday 5 June

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    A few surprising omissions of Blues U20 players, notably Rory Woods and Riley Williams.

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    No Crosby either who was a standout for the Canes.

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    @cgrant said in 2023 New Zealand U20s:

    No Crosby either who was a standout for the Canes.

    Looking at that list they've gone for size at lock, 6 and 8. There were plenty of options at loose forward. Dominic Ropeti is another to miss out.

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    Finn Hurley who was in last year's nz under 20 team hasn't made the cut this year

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    Is making NZ U20 very important for professional success any more? Is it enough to play Super Rugby U20 and be on a contract pathway now?

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    @Kiwidom said in 2023 New Zealand U20s:

    Finn Hurley who was in last year's nz under 20 team hasn't made the cut this year

    There are better (and bigger) options at fullback like Tangitau and Springer. Spencer is another with some size.

    Also quite a few players chosen who will be eligible again in 2024, so maybe not all make the final squad this year.

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    @Bovidae said in 2023 New Zealand U20s:

    Really? Surely there are plenty of other coaches who are better options.

    https://www.allblacks.com/news/laidlaw-to-lead-new-zealand-under-20s/

    The New Zealand Under 20 squad will be named in April.

    New Zealand Under 20 Schedule:
    Vs. Australia Under 20, Monday 29 May, Wellington
    Vs. Australia Under 20, Saturday 3 June, Wellington

    2023 World Rugby Under 20 Championship
    Pool matches:

    Vs. Wales Under 20, 24 June, Paarl Gymnasium, Paarl, South Africa
    Vs. France Under 20, 29 June, Paarl Gymnasium, Paarl, South Africa
    Vs. Japan Under 20, 4 July, Paarl Gymnasium, Paarl, South Africa

    Knock-out matches:
    Match day 4: Sunday 9 July
    Match day 5 (final): Friday 14 July

    Yeah. Odd. Saw that today.

    Are Super coaches committed until too late?
    McMillan? Coventry?

    Assume NPC coaches in the midst of prepping.

    See his ex AB7s manager is managing. Thought I'd kinda got the impression that didn't end well. But maybe not. Perhaps they're a good fit?

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    @booboo There is an overlap with SR, so none of them can be involved. The same will apply to NPC coaches and pre-season preparations. NZR does like to recycle coaches.

    Edit: Marty Bourke is the Canterbury coach, so it obviously depends for NPC commitments.

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    @Tim Maybe not important for professional success, but I know from several players that they value wearing that black jersey. For some, it will be the only black jersey they'll ever wear (or the most senior black jersey, if they've played for NZ Schools).

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    Hurricanes U20 first five-eighth Isaiah Armstrong Ravula (Richie Mo'unga's nephew) didn't make the NZ U20 WTG. He has now been called up by Fiji U20.

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    Article about Cooper Flanders.

    'I got sick of passing the ball': Former halfback's journey to New Zealand U20s as a No 8

    'I got sick of passing the ball': Former halfback's journey to New Zealand U20s as a No 8

    The industrious loose forward, selected for the New Zealand Under 20s, prefers to deal in actions rather than words.

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    https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-under-20-to-play-two-matches-against-the-junior-wallabies-in-wellington/

    MATCH ONE: NZ U20 v Junior Wallabies - Monday 29 May, 2.00PM (NZST), NZCIS, WELLINGTON
    MATCH TWO: NZ U20 v Junior Wallabies – Saturday 3 June, 4.30PM (NZST), Sky Stadium, WELLINGTON

    • The second match will be played as a curtain raiser to the Hurricanes v Crusaders and kicks off Saturday 3 June at 4.30PM (NZST), at SKY Stadium. This match will be broadcast live and exclusive on Sky Sport.

    • The final New Zealand Under 20 squad of 30 for the World Rugby U20 Championship in South Africa will be announced following their second match in Wellington, on Monday 5 June.

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    Looks like all the Super Rugby players were at the leadership camp over the last week - Lakai, Springer, Hotham, Godfrey etc so obviously no longer available for their respective Super sides going forward.

    Seems like a talented side, hopefully they can do the business.

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    @Canes4life said in 2023 New Zealand U20s:

    Looks like all the Super Rugby players were at the leadership camp over the last week - Lakai, Springer, Hotham, Godfrey etc so obviously no longer available for their respective Super sides going forward.

    Seems like a talented side, hopefully they can do the business.

    Isn't Laidlaw still the men's sevens coach? I thought he was at the Toulouse event.

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    @kiwi_expat true, maybe this was earlier in the year so in that case ignore the above.

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    Does anyone know whether you can actually go to NZCIS to watch the game? Do they allow entry to spectators?

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    Yeah you can walk up and watch but it's not suited to the biggest crowd as you can see in the video below.

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