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    @ACT-Crusader Which says the All Blacks will want to make amends for that, particularly with so many players having their last game at home.

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    @KiwiMurph This is my point though. They'll have already decided one way or another - and it is entirely possible that they take Telea, Clarke and Fainga'anuku.

    And of course, they might have decided on 33 players on the assumption Blackadder, Cane, Narawa, Havili etc. prove fitness.

    Considering Sevu Reece seems to be with the team at the moment, wonder if we'll see Havili and Blackadder pop up in some training photos?

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    @frugby Sevu Reece is only with the team, because the team is based in Christchurch at the moment, which is where he lives.

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    @Stargazer I realise this, but I'd assume Havili and Blackadder live in Christchurch as a permanent home, even if they are training with Ta$man at the moment (they'll be based there currently).

    Particularly Blackadder if he still isn't fit yet.

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    @frugby Christchurch isn't the permanent home of Havili and Blackadder. They're from, and based in, Ta$man.

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    @Stargazer You reckon they live there? I'd be surprised, most of the Super players (particularly the good ones) live in the main centres.

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    @frugby Yeah, Ta$man is home for them. Not Christchurch. It's the same for a lot of SR players, who play their NPC outside the SR main centres.

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    @Stargazer Genuinely curious, what evidence do you have of this? From what I can tell Havili lives with his GF in a house in ChCh.

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    @frugby I know this because that's what they're showing on their socials, because they're going back home whenever they can, because it's what they've said publically.

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    @Stargazer
    True for some Scott Barrett for instance owns a house in CHCh not in the Taranaki
    as he spends most of his time there
    Will Jordan too lives in Chch and owns a house there near his parents and extended family.

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    @Chris First of all, I didn't say it's the same for all players. Second, distance will play a role. It's easier to drive up from Chch to Nelson. To go to rural Taranaki requires taking a plane and then a drive out of New Plymouth. It will also depend on their partner. If their partner has a job in the SR main centre and can't get a few days off, or a player has children that go to school there, then he'll probably stay there for that reason.

    I know of plenty of Hawke's Bay players returning home from Auckland, Hamilton and Wellington during a bye week or when injured. It's harder from Dunedin, but know several of them will always consider Dunedin as their home away from home. I see the same with players from the Canes who return to Manawatū, Auckland or BOP.

    Anyway, the initial comment/question was about Havili and Blackadder, and I know Ta$man is home for them.

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    @Stargazer It's often different for All Blacks though, because they don't play NPC, so are living out of a suitcase half the time, living 7 months+ of the year at their Super home base, and then spending the rest (Dec-Early Jan) on holiday, which may be at home, or their original home, or somewhere totally different.

    It slightly differs for the younger players who don't live with GFs/have kids, who often just flat together. Folau Fakatava is one like that I think, but as I say, I'd be stunned if Havili, who has played for the Crusaders for 10 years doesn't live in Christchurch.

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    @Stargazer

    Well I did say true for some, I was not disagreeing on Havilli and Blackadder just giving examples of not true for all.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    I'd be stunned if Havili, who has played for the Crusaders for 10 years doesn't live in Christchurch

    Yes, from January to June.

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    top quality input here

    which South Island dump they call home is definitely a big factor

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    @mariner4life Yes not quite sure how we jumped from the fact that Havili and Blackadder are injured to an in-depth argument around where the former lives 🀣

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    my guess is hope that because they are at ABs training but "away from home" they are going to the World Cup

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    Havilli will go to the WC

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    @Chris said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Havilli will go to the WC

    Totally. Sadly

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    @Chris said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

    Havilli will go to the WC

    That's the assumption. But it is only that. Tupaea is the wildcard, and Ennor's form may have thrown a cat amongst the pigeons.

    The other possibility is they take five midfielders and four outside backs rather than the other way around, which I wouldn't rule out.

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