NPC 2023
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sure, 6 of the 7 norther teams are all drivable so they they get a benefit....but that would create more "haves" and "have nots"
@J77 i think it make a tiny contribution to problem #12 (made up number on a made up list for effect) so barely worth the effort to talking about
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@Stargazer they are more often thatn not.
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Sorry I haven't really engaged in the above arguments and suggestions but what about this North/South concept they mooted last year?
North pool: Northland, Harbour, Auckland, Counties, BOP, Waikato and Taranaki
South Pool: Hawkes Bay, Manawatu, Wellington, Ta$man, Canterbury, Otago, Southland.
Obviously raises the concern of how to fit the Ranfurly Shield in, but I'm sure there'll be some solutions. If it's solely a financial scenario from NZRU then that would cut alot of costs and shorten the season a bit which is obviously their wish.
Finals structures could cross over somehow maybe??
That's the most awful suggestion thus far. First of all, that would lock provinces in one and the same pool every year. That would get boring. Second, existing rivalries and inter-provincial trophies played for would disappear.
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@Kiwiwomble point taken, but to me a tiny contribution is something anyway. I, like many others just want to see this competition stay afloat somehow..
And yes, I'm going to be bias and want to see my team remain, because everyime these convos pop up we are mentioned as one of the first on the chopping block alongside Manawatu and Southland..
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@J77 i get the sentiment but as @Stargazer says (and we disagree on lots of this stuff)...i think the problem it would bring would cause more problem than they would solve
if we want to save money on transport then lets ditch NPC all together and use something like the 1stXV model for Club teams, winner of dunedin club comp plays the winners of the other sth island club comps and have a "top 4" of club teams
NOT A SERIOUS SUGGESTION
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@Kiwiwomble well haven't I been told then.. I'll leave it there. Just an opinion.
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@J77 you're free to disagree but you havent explained how you think @Stargazer 's points aren't valid, off the top of my head, no battles of the bay's unless both HB and BoP make play offs?
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@Kiwiwomble yeah that really sucks. Like Stargazer and yourself I too love the rivalries etc and would hate to see them die. However, I'm talking a real doomsday situation here, as I think the NZRU want to kick this whole thing to the kerb. Do we still want to see all our provinces playing in something at least, or kiss goodbye to them forever?
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@Higgins thats a very good point, I would say the womens comps are still piggy backing the mens game, sure we got a boost from the RWC here, but I would say the womens comps are less sustainable than the NPC, and unfortunately additional drain on resources, however with the growth of the womens game, I imagine th euproar if they ditched the FPC.
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@taniwharugby Would be hard to justify, too, as SR Aupiki is only a 4 team competition and they play far too few games without a home-and-away round robin.
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@mariner4life Your idea, of a potential structure based upon the NRL's integration of lower levels, was one of the better suggestions I've seen.
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@mariner4life Your idea, of a potential structure based upon the NRL's integration of lower levels, was one of the better suggestions I've seen.
recap @mariner4life ?
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@Kiwiwomble think everything ran concurrently, club, npc, super
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the more we talk...the more it also feels weird to be super > club > NPC with international scatter inbetween...seems a like it doesn't flow
