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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
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    #539

    Based on what I was told some club players get paid a sum comparable to NPC contracts. It might be the same club @ploughboy is talking about. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Like the SR salary cap, the NPC salary cap is largely meaningless if you are just topping up player's SR contracts. That becomes more of an issue with the "haves" and "have nots" where the quality of the players you have in your squad is even wider between say, an Auckland and a Southland.

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    #540

    @Bovidae said in NPC 2023:

    Like the SR salary cap, the NPC salary cap is largely meaningless if you are just topping up player's SR contracts. That becomes more of an issue with the "haves" and "have nots" where the quality of the players you have in your squad is even wider between say, an Auckland and a Southland.

    Which creates other problems too. Auckland had ~27 SR players, plus a couple of NZ u20's they wanted in the squad.. leaving almost no room for selections from club form

    I think the Cantabs might be even worse ~30 SR players?

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    #541

    @Duluth and then any ABs on the books are likely paid minimal and NZR pay it anyway, and then they don't often run in thier provincial colours anyway.

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    #542

    i know i said budget but this is what i was told clubs are spending on there top team and does not include any other teams they have. . i know of at least two clubs where every player gets paid for each appearance. the person who told me lead me to believe that all clubs in this comp are paying players and this was the amounts they were spending.
    @Bovidae im sure we will be talking about the same club and im sure you can guess the other.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    #543

    i love this stuff and remember saying last year they should do more of this kind of thing

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    #544

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    Kiwiwomble
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    #545

    @Stargazer thats a handy pickup

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #546

    If it was a provincial competition Taranaki would pick the next best lock from their local clubs

    But it stopped being that a while ago

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #547

    Have Taranaki got more injuries at lock, or not expecting Lord back anytime soon?

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by Stargazer
    #548

    @Duluth If provinces could only field local players, the competition would always favour the big provinces, who have a much larger player pool. Auckland would have too many players and talented, deserving players would miss out, while a small province wouldn't have sufficient players of an adequate level to field a competitive team.

    The competition wouldn't be fair.

    Fielding local players should be the starting point, but it isn't always realistic.

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    Duluth
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #549

    @Stargazer

    You were just complaining about a HB player going to Southland and an Aucklander playing for HB. It's the same point

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by Stargazer
    #550

    @Duluth No, it isn't exactly the same point, because the player who left for Southland was already contracted to the Magpies and is an NPC level player with sufficient experience.

    Fielding a local player in that case was realistic. It isn't always realistic, because local players may not be of an adequate level. I don't know, for example, whether there is a lock of adequate level available in Taranaki to fill that spot now taken by Franklin.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #551

    @Stargazer said in NPC 2023:

    Fielding a local player in that case was realistic. It isn't always realistic, because local players may not be of an adequate level.

    Then the province should lose games

    Depends if we want a provincial competition or a retarded franchise competition.

    I can't believe you want to gut a core concept of the NPC like this. Club flows to NPC. It's the strength of NZ rugby blah blah blah

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Stargazer
    replied to Duluth on last edited by
    #552

    @Duluth said in NPC 2023:

    Then the province should lose games

    No, because - as I said - that would favour the big provinces who have a larger player pool.

    And you're twisting my words again.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    Kiwiwomble
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    #553

    but wouldnt players further down the pecking order at a big union move around to the smaller ones (properly move and play club, not just fly in for game day) to get game time and hopefully get a fully professional contract?

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    #554

    Friendly draw for Canterbury.

    Play Wellington in Chch who are coming off of a storm week consisting of 2 Shield games.

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Stargazer
    #555

    I haven't checked all union's socials, but some of them are now selling retro jerseys (maybe only those who get their gear from Paladin?). The three I saw on my time line:

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Duluth
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    #556

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    Paladin as well, but doesnโ€™t have their badge

    Here's the paladin store. The other team with a retro jersey is Harbour https://nz.paladin.sport/products/

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  • Canes4lifeC Offline
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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by Canes4life
    #557

    @KiwiMurph pretty shit for Wellington having one of their most important games of the season at the end of a storm week.

    The scheduler must have been a Cantab. ๐Ÿ˜‘

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    Kiwiwomble
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #558

    @Stargazer said in NPC 2023:

    I haven't checked all union's socials, but some of them are now selling retro jerseys (maybe only those who get their gear from Paladin?). The three I saw on my time line:

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    Gilbert has had a Retro "inspired" one for us for a couple of year

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    My biggest problem with Gilbert is all their images are computer generated, not the real thing, so you cant be 100% sure what it like in the flesh

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