RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji
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@mariner4life or maybe Fiji are just better than most think, Aus are right where people thought...
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Good from Fiji. They've always been big, fast and physical, but today their accuracy at the ruck, their set piece (for 56 minutes) and their mauling was the difference. Played with plenty of width that was giving Australia kittens. Played the ref at the ruck perfectly.
They were done at about 56 minutes and were hanging on. Their lineout fell apart, they couldn't hold the ball, and they started to fall off tackles. But Australia had nothing. Why get in to a 3 minute kicking duel with 6 minutes on the clock and you need a try just to draw? insane decision making
Massive worries for Australia. Their young 10 they've chucked in teh deep end Eddie towed, and will now probably never play again. Discipline appalling, dumb penalty after dumb penalty. Beaten everywhere for most of the game.
I would still take Valetini over any of our loosies though.This pool is so fun. If Aus can beat Wales (and that now looks a huge if) then it's gonna get silly.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
@mariner4life or maybe Fiji are just better than most think, Aus are right where people thought...
definitely
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@mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
Discipline appalling, dumb penalty after dumb penalty
So... pretty much the last 5 years?
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@His-Bobness said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
Fiji deserved that. Thoroughly disciplined performance. If they hadn’t been robbed against Wales they’d be in the QFs already.
Oh gawd, if Fiji don't make the quarters then we'll never hear the end of this. And that will be so tedious. And me reminding you every time that the ref gifted Fiji 12 points from missed scrum penalties and let them get away with murder at the breakdown in the first half will get excruciating.
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Have been really impressed with Fiji in both games. They've improved so much in recent years in game management, discipline, structure, set piece etc. I guess having Drua in SR is probably a big part of that, but a lot of credit needs to go to the national team management.
In both matches they started to struggle in the 3rd quarter, and those areas where they had been good fell away a bit. Wales took advantage during that period better than Australia, which was ultimately the difference (despite Wales trying their best to throw it away in the last 20).
Disappointing from Australia, frustrating number of dumb decisions & indiscipline cost them.
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@The-Irishman said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
Brilliant! Hopefully Wales can finish off Oz and knock them out, it would be fantastic to see Fiji qualify. That should be a cracking game next Sunday.
I'd still give this slightly to Australia, but if the prospect can't lift the Welshmen against the New South Welshmen (and hangers on), nothing can!
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@NTA said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
@mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
Discipline appalling, dumb penalty after dumb penalty
So... pretty much the last 5 years?
maybe your powder is just drier than ours?
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@Bovidae said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
AB fans complain about their lack of discipline. The Wallabies say hold my beer.
but the Fijians say "Sorry saka, I need two hands for this Kava here."
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@mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
@mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
I reckon Aus by a couple of scores. I think they are a bit better than most think. And i think last week will have taken a bit out of Fiji.
another piece of evidence in the "M4L knows fuck all about rugby" file
Fiji did get tired, but apparently Australia are not better than most think
@voodoo said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
Can't believe 10 of y'all voted Fiji - I get going against the grain, better odds etc, but I'd bet my left nut on Oz winning this comfortably.
Hey, at least you still have both of your nuts in tact
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
Just saw result. Ha ha. Fůck you Eddie. I'll bet Dave Rennie is giggling like a fůcking school girl. Karma be a bitch.
Thanks for the new Scandi(?) swear words to add to my vocab.
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It's pretty disgraceful what the ARU have done to the fans here
When Fiji started to fall apart in the last quarter, a team that has played together before, coached by guys who didn't meet at the airport on the way to the tournament, probably go on an win it. Instead the team is completely disjointed, with no idea what they are trying to do, they lose, and suddenly their cup future is in the balance.
All because head office wanted some headlines.
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@mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
It's pretty disgraceful what the ARU have done to the fans here
When Fiji started to fall apart in the last quarter, a team that has played together before, coached by guys who didn't meet at the airport on the way to the tournament, probably go on an win it. Instead the team is completely disjointed, with no idea what they are trying to do, they lose, and suddenly their cup future is in the balance.
All because head office wanted some headlines.
I firmly believe, that this World Cup should not be judged until after 2027 (on the basis Eddie Jones doesn't walk).
They didn't have the players to compete at this World Cup, they lost to Italy last year for pete sake... wouldn't have done any better with Rennie in real terms, but they might have avoided a defeat here or there with older players. This should leave them quite well set up for the Lions Tour and the 2027 tournament, where if they win it, this shambles will be forgotten.
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has Australia ever failed to get out of their pool? I assume not.
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So - assuming we come second in our pool - if we were to win our QF, we're going to play either the winner of this pool or the team that comes second in Pool D.
At any rate, not England, unless their wheels suddenly fall off. I'd rather see them on the other side of the draw.
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@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
has Australia ever failed to get out of their pool? I assume not.
Nope, in 9 previous RWCs they've:
3 times lost a quarterfinal
2 times lost a semifinal
2 times lost a final
2 times won the whole shebang -
@GibbonRib said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
@nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
has Australia ever failed to get out of their pool? I assume not.
Nope, in 9 previous RWCs they've:
3 times lost a quarterfinal
2 times lost a semifinal
2 times lost a final
2 times won the whole shebangPretty good record for a 2nd Tier Nation
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@mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
@mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
I reckon Aus by a couple of scores. I think they are a bit better than most think. And i think last week will have taken a bit out of Fiji.
another piece of evidence in the "M4L knows fuck all about rugby" file
Fiji did get tired, but apparently Australia are not better than most think
Tell you what mate, you not the only one who has been proved a bit wrong, and as long as we have results that make us look like we don't know as much as we hope, we know the games in good state I think! (I have to also say that because anyone seeing my picks in any comp proves it)
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@frugby said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
@mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:
It's pretty disgraceful what the ARU have done to the fans here
When Fiji started to fall apart in the last quarter, a team that has played together before, coached by guys who didn't meet at the airport on the way to the tournament, probably go on an win it. Instead the team is completely disjointed, with no idea what they are trying to do, they lose, and suddenly their cup future is in the balance.
All because head office wanted some headlines.
I firmly believe, that this World Cup should not be judged until after 2027 (on the basis Eddie Jones doesn't walk).
They didn't have the players to compete at this World Cup, they lost to Italy last year for pete sake... wouldn't have done any better with Rennie in real terms, but they might have avoided a defeat here or there with older players. This should leave them quite well set up for the Lions Tour and the 2027 tournament, where if they win it, this shambles will be forgotten.
Will he have that choice?
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