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    @NTA said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @GibbonRib said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    USA Rugby emphatically agrees

    I'd back us to turn it around quicker than them. The USA is a basket case.

    True, however hard it will be to rebuild the Wallabies, at least there probably won't be a civil war on at the same time

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    @NTA said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    Another who had worked under Eddie was sitting at my table and had very little to say about him that was good.

    Joe Marler wasn't a fan based on recent comments.

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    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Duluth said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    Their young 10 they've chucked in teh deep end Eddie towed, and will now probably never play again

    Gordon is super talented.. I can't believe how bad they've mishandled him

    They were asking a lot by making him ten this year, but you could make an argument that he was ready. However, the only ten in the squad? A ten in side that lacks other kicking options? Crazy

    and they took no old head to help him manage it. Foley or Cooper, even if you didn't intend to play them much, would have been huge for his confidence and to help him navigate it.

    But no, you take only him, and as soon as it gets tough, you tow him? appalling man management (from the outside)

    Yes I agree, if they won't take Cooper they should have taken Samu. Hell, I don't know why they dropped Samu, he was a hardworking glue guy forward.

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    @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Duluth said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    Their young 10 they've chucked in teh deep end Eddie towed, and will now probably never play again

    Gordon is super talented.. I can't believe how bad they've mishandled him

    They were asking a lot by making him ten this year, but you could make an argument that he was ready. However, the only ten in the squad? A ten in side that lacks other kicking options? Crazy

    and they took no old head to help him manage it. Foley or Cooper, even if you didn't intend to play them much, would have been huge for his confidence and to help him navigate it.

    But no, you take only him, and as soon as it gets tough, you tow him? appalling man management (from the outside)

    Yes I agree, if they won't take Cooper they should have taken Samu. Hell, I don't know why they dropped Samu, he was a hardworking glue guy forward.

    Tainted with kiwiness

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    @NTA said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @LABCAT said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    who goes through to the QF's if all three teams finish on 15 points?

    Several factors influence pool placings and a team’s qualification to the knockout stages. If teams are level on points at the end of the group stage, the list of criteria for deciding who advances is as follows:

    1. The winner of the match between two tied teams is ranked higher.
    2. The team with the best points difference in the pool stages is ranked higher.
    3. The team with the best difference between tries scored and tries conceded in the pool stages is ranked higher.
    4. The team which has scored the most points in the pool stages is ranked higher.
    5. The team which has scored the most tries in the pool stages is ranked higher.

    Should the teams remain level after steps 1-5, official World Rugby Rankings on a set date will determine the higher ranked team

    Or it could just be alphabetical order

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    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Duluth said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    Their young 10 they've chucked in teh deep end Eddie towed, and will now probably never play again

    Gordon is super talented.. I can't believe how bad they've mishandled him

    They were asking a lot by making him ten this year, but you could make an argument that he was ready. However, the only ten in the squad? A ten in side that lacks other kicking options? Crazy

    and they took no old head to help him manage it. Foley or Cooper, even if you didn't intend to play them much, would have been huge for his confidence and to help him navigate it.

    But no, you take only him, and as soon as it gets tough, you tow him? appalling man management (from the outside)

    @Duluth

    Not sure if you watched the post-match press conference, someone asked Eddie that exact question - "do you regret not taking an old head in the squad, someone for Carter to chat with afterwards and lean on for support?" And "with no senior 10 there, who does he turn to for support after a game like that?"

    Eddies response was "no, no regrets, we picked Carter, he's fine, he has plenty of support".

    Typically dismissive response.

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    @Machpants said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Duluth said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    Their young 10 they've chucked in teh deep end Eddie towed, and will now probably never play again

    Gordon is super talented.. I can't believe how bad they've mishandled him

    They were asking a lot by making him ten this year, but you could make an argument that he was ready. However, the only ten in the squad? A ten in side that lacks other kicking options? Crazy

    and they took no old head to help him manage it. Foley or Cooper, even if you didn't intend to play them much, would have been huge for his confidence and to help him navigate it.

    But no, you take only him, and as soon as it gets tough, you tow him? appalling man management (from the outside)

    Yes I agree, if they won't take Cooper they should have taken Samu. Hell, I don't know why they dropped Samu, he was a hardworking glue guy forward.

    Tainted with kiwiness

    Born in OZ I think! I reckon he just wasn't the right physical stats for Eddie. That coach has a big lazy size issue.

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    @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Machpants said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Duluth said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    Their young 10 they've chucked in teh deep end Eddie towed, and will now probably never play again

    Gordon is super talented.. I can't believe how bad they've mishandled him

    They were asking a lot by making him ten this year, but you could make an argument that he was ready. However, the only ten in the squad? A ten in side that lacks other kicking options? Crazy

    and they took no old head to help him manage it. Foley or Cooper, even if you didn't intend to play them much, would have been huge for his confidence and to help him navigate it.

    But no, you take only him, and as soon as it gets tough, you tow him? appalling man management (from the outside)

    Yes I agree, if they won't take Cooper they should have taken Samu. Hell, I don't know why they dropped Samu, he was a hardworking glue guy forward.

    Tainted with kiwiness

    Born in OZ I think! I reckon he just wasn't the right physical stats for Eddie. That coach has a big lazy size issue.

    Ah but played for the crusaders, yuck

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    I would just like to commend Shag for going to go and have a chat to the Wallaby lads recently. Now mate if you could just do the same over at the Irish, Saffa and French camps also that would be much appreciated.

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    @Nevorian said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    I would just like to commend Shag for going to go and have a chat to the Wallaby lads recently. Now mate if you could just do the same over at the Irish, Saffa and French camps also that would be much appreciated.

    Not that I am overly scared and paranoid but can he please add the Italians to his visitation list?

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    @Nevorian said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    I would just like to commend Shag for going to go and have a chat to the Wallaby lads recently. Now mate if you could just do the same over at the Irish, Saffa and French camps also that would be much appreciated.

    Did he visit the ABs before or after France...

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    @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Nevorian said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    I would just like to commend Shag for going to go and have a chat to the Wallaby lads recently. Now mate if you could just do the same over at the Irish, Saffa and French camps also that would be much appreciated.

    Not that I am overly scared and paranoid but can he please add the Italians to his visitation list?

    Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get ya 😉

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    @Machpants said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Nevorian said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    I would just like to commend Shag for going to go and have a chat to the Wallaby lads recently. Now mate if you could just do the same over at the Irish, Saffa and French camps also that would be much appreciated.

    Did he visit the ABs before or after France...

    Didn't need to, MiniShag is coach..

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    @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Machpants said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Duluth said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    Their young 10 they've chucked in teh deep end Eddie towed, and will now probably never play again

    Gordon is super talented.. I can't believe how bad they've mishandled him

    They were asking a lot by making him ten this year, but you could make an argument that he was ready. However, the only ten in the squad? A ten in side that lacks other kicking options? Crazy

    and they took no old head to help him manage it. Foley or Cooper, even if you didn't intend to play them much, would have been huge for his confidence and to help him navigate it.

    But no, you take only him, and as soon as it gets tough, you tow him? appalling man management (from the outside)

    Yes I agree, if they won't take Cooper they should have taken Samu. Hell, I don't know why they dropped Samu, he was a hardworking glue guy forward.

    Tainted with kiwiness

    Born in OZ I think! I reckon he just wasn't the right physical stats for Eddie. That coach has a big lazy size issue.

    And yet he kept picking Billy Vunipola. If you look up big and lazy in the encyclopaedia there is a picture of Billy.

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    It’s quite interesting to compare Eddie’s approach in taking over England v taking over Aus. For England he relied almost totally on the old guard. Perhaps Lancaster had left England in a better place than we thought? It would have been good to find out what Eddie would have done with Burgess if he’d stayed on.

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    @Catogrande said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    Eddie would have done with Burgess if he’d stayed on.

    made him attack coach

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    @mariner4life

    Not a problem. Eddie’s attack coaches don’t last long.

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    @Catogrande said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Machpants said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @nostrildamus said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @Duluth said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    Their young 10 they've chucked in teh deep end Eddie towed, and will now probably never play again

    Gordon is super talented.. I can't believe how bad they've mishandled him

    They were asking a lot by making him ten this year, but you could make an argument that he was ready. However, the only ten in the squad? A ten in side that lacks other kicking options? Crazy

    and they took no old head to help him manage it. Foley or Cooper, even if you didn't intend to play them much, would have been huge for his confidence and to help him navigate it.

    But no, you take only him, and as soon as it gets tough, you tow him? appalling man management (from the outside)

    Yes I agree, if they won't take Cooper they should have taken Samu. Hell, I don't know why they dropped Samu, he was a hardworking glue guy forward.

    Tainted with kiwiness

    Born in OZ I think! I reckon he just wasn't the right physical stats for Eddie. That coach has a big lazy size issue.

    And yet he kept picking Billy Vunipola. If you look up big and lazy in the encyclopaedia there is a picture of Billy.

    I worded it badly, Samu is not big for a loosie let alone fat or lazy.
    I did mean Eddie likes big players who have good stats and look good in short bursts/in training.

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    @nostrildamus

    Ah. My mistake. It all makes sense now.

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    @Duluth said in RWC Week 2: Australia v Fiji:

    I have some sympathy for the idea of a cleanout

    Maybe there's players who are too comfortable with being losers? Maybe there's other negative culture shit they need to get rid of?

    However you can't go into a cup with one 10. You have to have at least one exception to the cull

    There are 2

    Donaldson

    I’d pull the Iestyn Harris rugby league move against us

    Gordon to start at 10, Donaldson at 15
    Then move to Donaldson to 10 and bring on Kellaway

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