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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="599153" data-time="1469248959">
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    <p>I'm not sure it's that absurd. At the moment the default is - we can't see a grounding so a try wasn't scored (even though plenty of times it doubtless has been).</p>
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    <p>At present, if you can't get your hands under the ball, the next best thing defenders can do is to obscure the cameras - and they're clearly being coached to do this.</p>
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    <p>I quite like the way the leaguies do it - as described above. The ref gives his decision and then you go to the cameras to see if there's evidence that he's wrong.</p>
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    <p>So you're asking the ref to guess and the TMO to find evidence to the contrary?</p>
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    <p>Even in league they don't like their system because the donkey refs and TMO keep coming up with utterly baffling rulings.</p>

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  • Chris B.C Online
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="antipodean" data-cid="599157" data-time="1469250902">
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    <p>So you're asking the ref to guess and the TMO to find evidence to the contrary?</p>
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    <p>Even in league they don't like their system because the donkey refs and TMO keep coming up with utterly baffling rulings.</p>
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    <p>Nothings perfect!  :)</p>
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    <p>I guess on reflection at least the way they do it at present everyone understands, what's going to happen - or at least they should.  Not sure what Stephen Larkham's excuse is.</p>
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    <p>What possibly could be improved is to start giving penalties for people who clearly dive in late to try to block the cameras.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="599160" data-time="1469251806">
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    <p>Nothings perfect!   :)</p>
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    <p>I guess on reflection at least the way they do it at present everyone understands, what's going to happen - or at least they should.  Not sure what Stephen Larkham's excuse is.</p>
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    <p><strong>What possibly could be improved is to start giving penalties for people who clearly dive in late to try to block the cameras.</strong></p>
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    <p>Not sure about that.  Once the ball crosses the try line there cannot be a tackle, ruck or maul.  After the ball crosses the line any player is entitled to dive off his feet in order to score a try or prevent an opponent from scoring a try (the only proviso being that he can't engage in dangerous play).  </p>
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    <p>I can't see how you would determine whether a player was legally trying to prevent a try or illegally (according to you) doing so to try and obscure the camera.  Just don't think that is realistic.  </p>

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  • Chris B.C Online
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    <p>That's like sending someone to prison because it looks like he committed a crime but without actually having seen clear evidence he committed the crime, and then asking a judge afterwards to establish whether he actually did it or not.</p>
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    <p>Not sure the judicial analogy really works.</p>
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    <p>I reckon a fair proportion of "can't see" tries are actually scored, so there's going to be a hell of a lot of OJ Simpson's wandering about.  :)</p>

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  • Chris B.C Online
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Damo" data-cid="599164" data-time="1469254355">
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    <p>Not sure about that.  Once the ball crosses the try line there cannot be a tackle, ruck or maul.  After the ball crosses the line any player is entitled to dive off his feet in order to score a try or prevent an opponent from scoring a try (the only proviso being that he can't engage in dangerous play).  </p>
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    <p>I can't see how you would determine whether a player was legally trying to prevent a try or illegally (according to you) doing so to try and obscure the camera.  Just don't think that is realistic.  </p>
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    <p>On the first part - that just needs a new rule for televised matches.</p>
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    <p>On the second part - you pretty frequently see people diving around the try-scoring situation after the event. The threat of being penalized would stop some of this - and then, like everything else, it's up to the ref's judgement.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="599160" data-time="1469251806">
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    <p>What possibly could be improved is to start giving penalties for people who clearly dive in late to try to block the cameras.</p>
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    <p>Surely the cameras have already caught what footage they need?</p>
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="599168" data-time="1469255031">
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    <p>On the first part - that just needs a new rule for televised matches.</p>
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    <p>On the second part - you pretty frequently see people diving around the try-scoring situation after the event. The threat of being penalized would stop some of this - and then, like everything else, it's up to the ref's judgement.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm against adding new rules. Particularly any that require an assumption of intent.</p>

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  • No QuarterN Online
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    No Quarter
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    Anyway<br><br>
    Quarter Final One: Check<br>
    Quarter Final Two: Hurricanes please don't let team NZ down

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    Sky news reporting Brumbles ass coach fined 10K for abusive email to Angus Gardiner.<br><br>
    Consolidating my opinion that they are whingey cry babies. As are their crowd/fans.<br><br>
    Reflecting on the state of the front office too?

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="602633" data-time="1470178310">
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    <p>Sky news reporting Brumbles ass coach fined 10K for abusive email to Angus Gardiner.<br><br>
    Consolidating my opinion that they are whingey cry babies. As are their crowd/fans.<br><br>
    Reflecting on the state of the front office too?</p>
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    <p>that's a shocker - possible i guess, but it seems far less likely that email is heat of the moment.</p>

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    My point is more that with a better culture he would be less inclined to make such a rash heat of the moment decision.

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