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    bayimports
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    We have a stack of forwards out still, Niukore, Bunty and Jazz probably the biggest impact for middles rotation. Hope Laban isn't defending Fifita, but gets a good chance to show his talent eitherway. SJ carrying injury but expect a strong hit back from the Warriors.
    Unfortunately Tedesco only got a fine which Im surprised with, but sort of not..
    As for the Eels, Sanders is actually a young halfback and Im surprised he hasnt been played so far, rather than stuffing Brown around. Doesn't help the lack of talent in their centres or their edge forwards. Interestingly hearing that Gutho's knees are completely shot but keeps playing, reminds me of Brett Stewart for Manly near the end of his career. BA on deaths door
    If Melbourne rout Souths, which they should.. is JD back out the door?
    The only team that didn't really need calvary thanks to a stack of talented juniors in Brisbane ..gets the big guns back lol.. poor tigers, however on ex-union watch Alaimalo gets his first run
    Surely the Cowboys bounce back..

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    I would be happy if Jazz never played NRL for the Warriors ever again.

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    @mariner4life said in NRL 2024:

    I would be happy if Jazz never played NRL for the Warriors ever again.

    he still gets himself in good positions and does some good work, but now has more jazz hands moments than not unfortunately, Niukore the biggest out right now for sure

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    And in new news; Bulldogs are going to have to answer why Topine walked away from the club and the game. A lodging in the Supreme Court of deprivation of liberty, unlawful detainment amongst other claims will be interesting reading.

    Unsurprisingly the smooth brains administering and coaching at the Bulldogs are circling the wagons again.

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    @antipodean said in NRL 2024:

    And in new news; Bulldogs are going to have to answer why Topine walked away from the club and the game. A lodging in the Supreme Court of deprivation of liberty, unlawful detainment amongst other claims will be interesting reading.

    Unsurprisingly the smooth brains administering and coaching at the Bulldogs are circling the wagons again.

    interesting tone, what is your take?

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    @mariner4life said in NRL 2024:

    @antipodean said in NRL 2024:

    And in new news; Bulldogs are going to have to answer why Topine walked away from the club and the game. A lodging in the Supreme Court of deprivation of liberty, unlawful detainment amongst other claims will be interesting reading.

    Unsurprisingly the smooth brains administering and coaching at the Bulldogs are circling the wagons again.

    interesting tone, what is your take?

    Given what's alleged, the smooth brains may have some uncomfortable questions to answer. Difficult to see how a player they've invested in over years all of a sudden is too soft to train hard.

    More broadly it may open up a can of worms about some racist attitudes in some coaching staff and administration.

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    are we reading the same case?

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    Talk of a Cleary coming to the Warriors. 17 Year old Jett.

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    Wow, I didn't see that take coming. From memory this is where RFM also raised the point about players and additional training and those that didn't like it, got told do the extra work or leave. There was a large amount of players who did leave last year too. Will be interesting to see what's in the players contracts though in regards to how far you can push certain things, probably a solid argument for no duty of care for someone's mental health, especially after this occured to just one player (that we currently know of), but cant see this getting to court though. Probably a payment of some kind incoming though and interesting to know if we ever get to hear the Bulldogs argument.

    On the field though, Bulldogs look better for it this year though, interestingly also RFM looks better at the Dragons too

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    @mariner4life I'm reading this
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/weekend-australian-magazine/inside-the-bulldogs-wrestling-session-where-jackson-topine-was-forced-to-wrestle-squad/news-story/602c725bd73ac4324afc017d10b44bc7

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    paywalled, but i assume the same one

    what's the racist undertones i have missed?

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    @antipodean said in NRL 2024:

    @mariner4life I'm reading this
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/weekend-australian-magazine/inside-the-bulldogs-wrestling-session-where-jackson-topine-was-forced-to-wrestle-squad/news-story/602c725bd73ac4324afc017d10b44bc7

    Reminds me a bit of when Bitchell would make players who dropped the ball in matches wear gloves all week and other frankly stupid stuff like that.

    That wrestling stuff would have probably been par for the course 20 plus years ago but seems pretty counter-productive these days.

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    @mariner4life The trope pushed in media­ ­reports about Pacific players being lazy and not putting in the work is common in rugby league.

    Ravulo first heard it when he began working with the NRL 15 years ago.

    “There’s a narrative they just want to get on the field and play but they don’t want to train,” he said.

    “But if you had one or two white players who were reluctant trainers, would you then apply that trope to all white players?”.

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    SO a Lebanese guy making a Polynesian guy do extra is racist now?

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    @mariner4life said in NRL 2024:

    SO a Lebanese guy making a Polynesian guy do extra is racist now?

    One example is now a trope. Well done.

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    can you, for once, just spell out what your fucking point is so i can see whether i agree or disagree, rather than trying to work out what the fuck you are trying to say from one sentence vague posts, and then attempting to discuss that?

    And if you are talking about specifics in your article, remember you linked to a paywalled article.

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    @mariner4life said in NRL 2024:

    can you, for once, just spell out what your fucking point is so i can see whether i agree or disagree, rather than trying to work out what the fuck you are trying to say from one sentence vague posts, and then attempting to discuss that?

    And if you are talking about specifics in your article, remember you linked to a paywalled article.

    I quoted the relevant part for you in answer to your question so you could join the dots and understand the basis of why I said it may open up a can of worms about some racist attitudes in some coaching staff and administration.

    Which bit are you having difficulty with?

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    the implication this is because he is a pacific islander

    not that he is at a club that had fallen in a heap, and a new coach was trying to set standards to lift them out of that hole.

    you can argue the merit of those methods for sure, but to say this happened to him because he's a pacific islander, not a Bulldogs player, seems a stretch to me.

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    @mariner4life said in NRL 2024:

    the implication this is because he is a pacific islander

    No, the prospective answers to his claim may shine a light on the perception allegedly held by some that Māori and Pasifika players are lazy.

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    do you think that is a likely opinion to be held by his managers (ie coaches) and employers?

    Surely the deadshit opinions of the dumbest fluffybunnies in the stands will not matter.

    I absolutely think that opinion existed 15 years ago. Shit, i heard it at every club i played at. But these days?
    The best club side possibly ever is loaded with polynesians who are absolute specimens. People hate Penrith because they are so good, but you never hear disparaging comments about their players. In fact, clubs play overs for their polynesian players to come and set standards.

    On the flip side is Josh Schuster, who never looks in shape, is widely reported to be an actual lazy trainer, and no one wants to talk to him.

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