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    #4463

    I wonder whether we are looking at a 6-2 bench if Sititi is to see any time.

    I think the plan will be to bring out a fresh lock, fresh 6, and fresh big running 8 (Ardie moving to 7) so we can get ball running later in the game.

    If we stay with 5-2, A fresh lock (Pat T), Barrett to 6, 7 to replace Paps.

    Here is the key question for me - where do they see Blackadder? His selection alongside Jacobson makes no sense. Both are better as 7s at the international level so with Paps there these selections really lead us to think the inbalance isn’t going to be addressed.

    The selection of Tosi makes sense, we can see him and Williams is being set up as the ball running props - who either come on together or switch as needed (so this could break up the EDG / Lomax starting prop rotation if they go that way, EDG most under-threat there).

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    Here is the key question for me - where do they see Blackadder? His selection alongside Jacobson makes no sense. Both are better as 7s at the international level so with Paps there these selections really lead us to think the inbalance isn’t going to be addressed.

    Does't it suggest one of them is starting at 6?

    A trio of 6.5, 7.5, 6.5

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    @Duluth but they'll work together seamlessly

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    Here is the key question for me - where do they see Blackadder? His selection alongside Jacobson makes no sense. Both are better as 7s at the international level so with Paps there these selections really lead us to think the inbalance isn’t going to be addressed.

    Does't it suggest one of them is starting at 6?

    A trio of 6.5, 7.5, 6.5

    Blurgh.

    We’ll need heaps of ball running elsewhere if we line up with Blackadder, Paps, Ardie.

    So, that might make a need for Pat T to start with Williams.

    Edit, and fuck our line out will be in deep shit

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    That's the concern isn't it - it appears on the face of it Blackadder has been selected in Akira's place, even though he's not a test 6s asshole. He's barely a test 7 given his lack of experience, though it is self evident that position best suits his skillset. The balance of the loose forwards is off because they couldn't seem to bring themselves to select Akira and Hoskins. It's only natural people want answers as to why they've done this, and they haven't provided any clear reasoning that I can see.

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    Surely Razor would have had a conversation with Vern re Sotutu at some point.

    If so and he was still not convinced then there must be something we are all missing

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    Here is the key question for me - where do they see Blackadder?

    Starting.

    They took him to the world cup over Finau I think

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    That's the concern isn't it - it appears on the face of it Blackadder has been selected in Akira's place, even though he's not a test 6s asshole. He's barely a test 7 given his lack of experience, though it is self evident that position best suits his skillset. The balance of the loose forwards is off because they couldn't seem to bring themselves to select Akira and Hoskins. It's only natural people want answers as to why they've done this, and they haven't provided any clear reasoning that I can see.

    A mate who's also a tragic went back to look at Blackadder. His view was he was great putting the shoulder in people. But slow. Very slow. And very poor offensively.

    I think he's your starting 6, and our lineout will struggle. And could be in trouble in the open field.

    Hope I'm wrong though

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    That's the concern isn't it - it appears on the face of it Blackadder has been selected in Akira's place, even though he's not a test 6s asshole. He's barely a test 7 given his lack of experience, though it is self evident that position best suits his skillset. The balance of the loose forwards is off because they couldn't seem to bring themselves to select Akira and Hoskins. It's only natural people want answers as to why they've done this, and they haven't provided any clear reasoning that I can see.

    A mate who's also a tragic went back to look at Blackadder. His view was he was great putting the shoulder in people. But slow. Very slow. And very poor offensively.

    I think he's your starting 6, and our lineout will struggle. And could be in trouble in the open field.

    Hope I'm wrong though

    maybe theyre looking at a much more structured gameplan, less of the everyone needs to be able attack form anywhere, run 80m to score, and more of a everyone needs to defend but attack will be more structured

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    I was reading in a you tube comments section this morning, and people were writing when Blackadder has played for the abs he has been outstanding.

    And I may not have the best memory but I don’t really remember this .

    What tests has he played?

    My main memory of him is he is always injured.

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    wiki says 10 tests, i dont think maybe games in a row though so hard to build, i thought he'd been "fine" when he had played

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    I would think they see Blackadder as a bench option more than a 6. Come on with 30 to go and empty the tank.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    I was reading in a you tube comments section this morning, and people were writing when Blackadder has played for the abs he has been outstanding.

    And I may not have the best memory but I don’t really remember this .

    What tests has he played?

    My main memory of him is he is always injured.

    My main memory of him as an AB was he popped up everywhere but wasn't quite sure what to do when he got there. Good at assists. Big motor but didn't get a sense he was highly effective. And questionable hands, I think? But maybe that was just my bad memory.

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    @nostrildamus that actually sounds about right....also feels like things that could be worked on....IF he could string a few games together...which is where my problem lies

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @nostrildamus that actually sounds about right....also feels like things that could be worked on....IF he could string a few games together...which is where my problem lies

    Yes I'm happy to be proven wrong, he seems like a real team guy with a good personality and super hard worker. I'd just prefer Akira at 6 (sure he is going overseas but BB and Ardie are allowed to slot back in seamlessly). And I'd prefer Hoskins over Jacobson or Blackadder as a backup 8.

    Edit: can Sititi play 6?

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    The other strange thing about the loosies is that - aside from Jacobsen and Papalii, they are not similar in style. Blackadder does not play anything like Finau. Sititi does not play anything like Savea. So any argument they're selecting based on the pattern they want to play seems very hard to justify. The only thing I can identify is that they are hell bent on having a limited 7 who does not much other than tackle themselves to a standstill. Poor old Duane Monkley was born too soon.

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    Some of the other nations must be terrified how good Finau and Sititi could be given Ioane and Sotutu aren't even in the squad. This series will be interesting!

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    A mate who's also a tragic went back to look at Blackadder. His view was he was great putting the shoulder in people.

    Not good if your injuries have been shoulder related

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    @Nevorian said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    A mate who's also a tragic went back to look at Blackadder. His view was he was great putting the shoulder in people.

    Not good if your injuries have been shoulder related

    there may be a connection..

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