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    @Victor-Meldrew nah man. So chuck in Plummer with Hotham at halfback and Jacobson at 8, Havili at 12? Doesn't sound like a fair chance to me.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    @Victor-Meldrew nah man. So chuck in Plummer with Hotham at halfback and Jacobson at 8, Havili at 12? Doesn't sound like a fair chance to me.

    Oh, I'm not saying go that far. More like start Proctor to see how he goes with JB, give Hotham and Plummer some game time and maybe LJ at 7 (he was pretty good there in SR)

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    @Victor-Meldrew nah man. So chuck in Plummer with Hotham at halfback and Jacobson at 8, Havili at 12? Doesn't sound like a fair chance to me.

    Oh, I'm not saying go that far. More like start Proctor to see how he goes with JB, give Hotham and Plummer some game time and maybe LJ at 7 (he was pretty good there in SR)

    Yeah I'm saying that's what I'd expect from this group and I'll be mildly surprised if it's actually a proper attempt to build depth and do discovery.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    Yeah I'm saying that's what I'd expect from this group and I'll be mildly surprised if it's actually a proper attempt to build depth and do discovery.

    Ah gotcha. Good point.

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    Something is out of whack, we are almost getting to the Irish series level on the field, players look stressed and quiet out there.

    You can see there trying play this fast game from the get go, but I'd like them flip it, play more traditional test rugby and then bring that fast game in the last 20-30 mins, use positional players first 50 then bring on all the outside backs and hybrid loosies.

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    Compared to 2-3 years ago they are creating much more opportunities to score tries.
    It's almost as if they are trying too hard and pushing miracle passes at times.
    Strong leadership would sort a lot of this out. Calm TF down. We have the ability on the whole.
    I am optimistic. There's too many good young players coming through not to be.

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    JB had a knee brace on so there is very little chance he plays. I'd guess he won't be playing for a while.

    I thought that Darry was poor in BC1. If Tuipulotu is ready he'll probably be on the bench.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    Copy and paste from previous thread

    15 Love
    14 Reiko
    13 Proctor
    12 Jordie
    11 Clarke
    10 DMac
    9 Ratima
    8 Savea
    7 Cane
    6 Sititi (C)
    5 Barrett
    4 Vaii
    3 Lomax
    2 Taylor
    1 Williams

    Where's the fucking bench?

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    Copy and paste from previous thread

    15 Love
    14 Reiko
    13 Proctor
    12 Jordie
    11 Clarke
    10 DMac
    9 Ratima
    8 Savea
    7 Cane
    6 Sititi (C)
    5 Barrett
    4 Vaii
    3 Lomax
    2 Taylor
    1 Williams

    Where's the fucking bench?

    Bench keep losing us games and are unable to score, so were not using one

    JB probably out to I reckon

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    Copy and paste from previous thread

    15 Love
    14 Reiko
    13 Proctor
    12 Jordie
    11 Clarke
    10 DMac
    9 Ratima
    8 Savea
    7 Cane
    6 Sititi (C)
    5 Barrett
    4 Vaii
    3 Lomax
    2 Taylor
    1 Williams

    Where's the fucking bench?

    No bench, don't need one

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    @booboo Love is out for a few weeks I think.

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    I would be keen for Plummer or Proctor to have a run, but if JB is out, I can't see it happening.

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    Players that should be rested:

    Taylor, Lomax, A. Savea, D Mac, J.Barrett, R. Ioane

    So the team I'd pick is:

    De Groot, Bell, Tosi, S.Barrett, Vaii, Finau, Blackadder, Sititi, Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB, Proctor, Jordan, Love

    Aumua, Williams, Ofa T, Darry, Cane, Hotham, B. Barrett, Telea,

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    @sparky that's so many changes it'll be like last time we did that, fucking disaster. Except this lot will lose in welly. Again

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    @Machpants And what did South Africa do against Australia in the second game? They're World Number 1 because they take risks. That side is capable of beating the Number 9 side in the world handsomely.

    And some guys have played a lot of minutes already this year. We need to manage their remaining minutes ahead of huge challenges to come at Twickenham, in Dublin and at the Stade de France.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    @Machpants And what did South Africa do against Australia in the second game? They'll World Number 1 because they take risks. That side is capable of beating the Number 9 side in the world handsomely.

    And some guys have played a lot of minutes already this year. We need to manage their remaining minutes ahead of hug challenges to come at Twickenham, in Dublin and at the Stade de France.

    That’s a very woke way to describe a scrum

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    Compared to 2-3 years ago they are creating much more opportunities to score tries.

    But not when it matters - like in the second half.

    Strong leadership would sort a lot of this out. Calm TF down.

    We have regressed. Back to where we were on the EOYT a couple of years ago

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    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    @Machpants And what did South Africa do against Australia in the second game? They're World Number 1 because they take risks. That side is capable of beating the Number 9 side in the world handsomely.

    And some guys have played a lot of minutes already this year. We need to manage their remaining minutes ahead of huge challenges to come at Twickenham, in Dublin and at the Stade de France.

    Yes but they were coming from a dominant win on a settled team. We're coming from a huge pile of shit (c.f.)

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    The experienced players and so called leaders have sucked in Wellington the last 5 tests or so there

    Let the youngsters have a crack. They can hardly do worse

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    Compared to 2-3 years ago they are creating much more opportunities to score tries.

    But not when it matters - like in the second half.

    Strong leadership would sort a lot of this out. Calm TF down.

    We have regressed. Back to where we were on the EOYT a couple of years ago

    Even GOAT took a year or three to warm to the job

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