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    @SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Semi Final, we have been bundled out in a Quarter Final in 07 by France.

    Didn't happen and I wasn't there in Cardiff that evening.

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    Didn't happen and I wasn't there in Cardiff that evening.

    Me too, I mean me neither...

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    @SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Semi Final, we have been bundled out in a Quarter Final in 07 by France.

    Fair. It was 1am and I was tired

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Semi Final, we have been bundled out in a Quarter Final in 07 by France.

    Fair. It was 1am and I was tired

    So were the selectors for that '19 semi final apparently....

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Semi Final, we have been bundled out in a Quarter Final in 07 by France.

    Fair. It was 1am and I was tired

    So were the selectors for that '19 semi final apparently....

    not the first time. In (I think) 07 Byron Kelleher had been looking great off the bench ... so they started him. Turns out starting and coming on against tired bodies isn't the same thing.

    Selection is hard, but like Rugby can be made as simple or as complex as you like. I worry we're trying to be too cute at times, both in selection and tactics.

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    @WestieFella said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Didn't happen and I wasn't there in Cardiff that evening.

    Me too, I mean me neither...

    #meneither

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    Unsure if this is public knowledge but haven’t seen it anywhere.

    Have been told that the AB squad is meeting this Wednesday and fly out on Thursday so don’t expect any of them to be playing in the NPC. As far as the AB XV players, I’m not sure.

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Unsure if this is public knowledge but haven’t seen it anywhere.

    Have been told that the AB squad is meeting this Wednesday and fly out on Thursday so don’t expect any of them to be playing in the NPC. As far as the AB XV players, I’m not sure.

    AB XV players will fly out after the NPC final.

    You’re defs correct re the ABs. When TJ played his last game for Welly it was mentioned the ABs wouldn’t be available this week.

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    The departure date for the ABs has been mentioned in the media. The only unknown is who amongst the AB XV squad are also going to Japan, and when they leave. That could impact NPC availability.

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    @Bovidae I’ll see if I can find that out.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Landers92

    The departure date for the ABs has been mentioned in the media. The only unknown is who amongst the AB XV squad are also going to Japan, and when they leave. That could impact NPC availability.

    Trying a little bit of math - IF they were to send the starting XV for England on ahead, then that would leave 21 AB players in Japan.

    From the AB XV they'd need two guys who were actually going to play in the game - plus four - which would likely be cover in case someone goes down in the warm-ups - so probably two props, a hooker and a halfback?

    For the latter four already e.g. Bower, Renata, Slater and Hotham are free.

    If you pick your starting XV for the All Blacks (going on to England), you could likely work out two positions where they need the extra players.

    I think a lock and a wing - maybe a first five. So maybe Lord, Naholo and/or Plummer?

    I'd be disappointed if they took anyone who is still required for NPC.

    Of course, this could all be bollocks! 🙂

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    No one has confirmed that it is the entire starting XV, in fact I very much doubt that. Too bold for Razor, and too much info for England. It will be a good chunk of the 23 but nowhere near all the starting XV

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    @Machpants See the last line. 🙂

    The only thing that makes me think that maybe they'll send the entire starting XV is Razor specifically saying they'll take 6 AB XV players - because the math does add up to that.

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    Yeah I getcha, but I just can't see it

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    @nzzp I remember it 20-18 we were playing in a grey strip.

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    If it was right - then team for Japan, something pretty close to:

    Williams, Aumua, Newell
    Tuipolotu, Darry
    Blackadder, Papali'i , Jacobson
    Roigard, Barrett
    ALB, Proctor
    Tele'a, Love, Perofeta

    Tu'ungafasi, Bell, Tosi, Lord, Finau
    Perenara, Havili, Naholo

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:

    If it was right - then team for Japan, something pretty close to:

    Williams, Aumua, Newell
    Tuipolotu, Darry
    Blackadder, Papali'i , Jacobson
    Roigard, Barrett
    ALB, Proctor
    Tele'a, Love, Perofeta

    Tu'ungafasi, Bell, Tosi, Lord, Finau
    Perenara, Havili, Naholo

    Solid 23, but Love as winger, not sure about that. I think Love will start at 15 with Perofeta covering 10/15 from the bench.

    So maybe Naholo starts on the left, Telea on the right with Love at 15.

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    @Chris-B Peter Lakai, most likely.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:

    Razor specifically saying they'll take 6

    I thought he said up to 6?

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks EOYT:

    They haven't picked the exact teams I would have, but I haven't really struggled to see their logic - with maybe a couple of exceptions. But, I'm prepared to put that down to me not being a pro coach!

    Remember when Foster picked ScoBa at 6 vs England in the QF in 19 and benched Sam? And then didn't attack the english lineout? Yeah, I remember that 🙂 3D chess, or coaches just playing hunches and going wrong.

    Edit: Hansen and semi. As you were.

    Also dropped Bender from the side.

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