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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Duluth
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    #70

    [quote name='Cutter']Not sure what its supposed to do, but we have to do it at [b]18 strokes per minute[/b]. Its hard to get the splits down and keep them down at that stroke rate. Kills the legs.[/quote]<br />
    How?<br />
    <br />
    I was doing quick erg as a warmup to a wieghts session and was experimenting with the SPM. The lowest I can get it down to and keep my form is about 20-21. When I was producing half decent times I was quite comfortable at 23 but now I seem to be stuck around 25-26 when going for a proper row<br />
    <br />
    Are you doing quite a long pause at the catch position? Or is the whole negative movement quite slow? You can't really change the drive speed without affecting power..

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  • BartManB Offline
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    #71

    When I slow down it is a pause at the end, and a slow rewind before a normal stroke. DOn't know if that is right or wrong, but that is how I slow up!!<br />
    <br />
    I row at about 28 - 30 when putting in time trials. After doing slow rates I could do 26-28 and still feel 'right'.

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  • C Offline
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    Cutter
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    #72

    Explode off the foot plates for power and then relaxed and slow down the slide. Because you arent frantically going back and forth, you really have to focus on getting the drive and power through the legs and back. Afterwards, it feels as though you have been doing deadlifts for an hour!

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  • BartManB Offline
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    BartMan
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    #73

    I look forward to October 11th, when I can start rowing properly again!

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  • C Offline
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    Cutter
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    #74

    I did another 3x6000m on Tuesday. As usual, 1.30 rest in between each one and aiming for a stroke rate of 18.<br />
    <br />

    1. 22.17.9, Split 1.52.6, Stroke Rate 18<br />
    2. 22.20.9, Split 1.52.7, 18<br />
    3. 22:44.4, Split 1.53.7, 19<br />
      Total 1.07.23.2 Avg: 1:53.0<br />
      <br />
      I should have gone harder during the last one. I was sitting on 1.55 thinking I was going to clag and surprised myself by feeling strong at the end. I probably did the last 2000 in about 1.50.
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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    ACT Crusader
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    #75

    Cutter - ''I probably did the last 2000 in 1.50'' Are you sure????<br />
    <br />
    BTW Im interested in that tecnique that kills the legs. Got a website or resource you can direct me to.

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  • C Offline
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    Cutter
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    #76

    Sorry, I meant average of 1.50/500m for the last 2000m.<br />
    <br />
    No resource I can send you to, but go with a low stroke rate and you have no choice but to harness the power in your legs. At 20 strokes per minute, you have to move slowly down the slide to maintain it meaning that all your power and speed is coming from your legs.<br />
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    The finish of the stroke should be leaning back at about 30 degrees with your legs flat and your arms at your chest. The next movement is to push your hands away, then rock your body forward so that you are leaning over your legs at about 30 degrees, then start to bend your legs until your shins are straight. Drive off your legs, keep your body angle leaning forward until you have flattened your knees, then use your back to finish the stroke (staying within the 30 degrees either side). Your arms shouldnt get tired they should just follow the momentum of your body and then you should move them forward quickly, before rocking forward and moving down the slide again.

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  • C Offline
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    Cutter
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    #77

    Did my first 5000m - 17.13.4. My Jedi Master's best time is 16.04! He was in the GB squad for the Beijing Olympics though.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    #78
    • Ignoring Cutter *<br />
      <br />
      Did my PB time yesterday of 21:37, next stop 21mins.....<br />
      <br />
      And as I have the only time from 2009 in the table does that mean I'm winning? Something?
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  • C Offline
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    Cutter
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    #79

    Good work mate. I have a distinct advantage with long levers.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    #80

    Yeah I'm not fit enough to do Mogwai's solution for short buggers (32 strokes per min). I have to keep it around 25-26 at the moment.

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  • cyclopathC Offline
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    cyclopath
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    #81

    You can do it with 25-26 - that's all I usually manage (although recently ridden with flu and a sinus infection so nothing fitness-wise for 3 weeks) - I am only 5' 10" at best. Tried 32 but just lost all form.<br />
    I managed 19.25 or so last year when rowing more, so it can be done.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    #82

    Yeah, I find that rate more comfortable. Had a weird last few rows, last one felt like I had a stich for about two kms of it, but all across my stomach and had to stop twice to make it go away. And for both of them my legs have felt dead tired after about 2kms.<br />
    <br />
    My household is full of sick kids and a sick wife at the moment, so am hoping I've just got a mild version of that.<br />
    <br />
    Be interesting to see if it's still like that today. Been back trying to get fit since mid July, so it's annoying to be going backwards like this.

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    #83

    21mins in sight.....21:18

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  • cyclopathC Offline
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    cyclopath
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    #84

    Hadn't done one for ages, but have been doing other stuff for fitness and strength. Gave it a crack yesterday - 19.28 so only 3 s off my best. Ugly scenes followed on the floor next to the machine - 42 year old hyperventilating on the floor tends to alarm the gym staff apparently!

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  • ToddyT Offline
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    Toddy
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    #85

    Did my first row in bout 2 years and managed a 19:57. Was f**ked at the end. Rowing is a lot harder than cycling xzxflag_of_truce

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  • M Offline
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    mickyb
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    #86

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]471[/ATTACH]<br />
    <br />
    18min 39s - My First Ever 5km row!

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  • BartManB Offline
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    BartMan
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    #87

    lol @ cyclo!!<br />
    <br />
    love it, and am jealous of you guys rowing at the moment. My father has taken over mine as I do the bodybuilding thing. He racks out between 5-10k a day. Not bad, considering he was born in 1939...!!

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  • dKD Offline
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    dK
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    #88

    I will try and do this at least once a week. 9 minute improvement on my previous time (1st time ever). Time 21.02.07

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  • cyclopathC Offline
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    cyclopath
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    #89

    Have returned to the rower for some variety. Was doing 5k in intervals - 500m, 1min rest, and so on, average about 1.52-4 for each.<br />
    So I thought "How hard can a straight 5k be?"<br />
    19.32 - happily surprised. Forgot how much the bastard hurts.

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