Blues all time XV



  • @mn5 said in All time Blues XV:

    @canefan said in All time Blues XV:

    @mn5 said in All time Blues XV:

    @canefan said in All time Blues XV:

    @steven-harris said in All time Blues XV:

    @nepia Certs on any poster would be

    Fitzpatrick
    Jones
    R Brooke
    Z Brooke
    Kaino
    Spencer
    Clark
    Rupeni
    Lomu
    Howlett

    Rocokoko is the one that’s doing my head,great finisher..do you pick him ahead of Jonah..Rupeni in my opinion ,and I got too see a lot of him close up when I did the sideline reports at Northland Taniwha games was just lethal,gased very good wingers like they weren’t even there..shame he played one game for Fiji when he was young..if he had played for the ABs in the NZ system could have been anything

    Rocket man ahead of Jonah? Nah

    Rokokoko saved his best for the black jersey if I remember rightly.

    How shit was that pass to the big man? Went sideways and back to gather then it's all over

    Cheers canefan. Always good seeing footage you've never seen before.

    🙂 never gets old



  • Woodcock
    Fitzpatrick
    Brown
    Williams
    R Brooke
    Kaino
    Jones
    Z Brooke
    Devine
    Spencer
    Rupeni
    Tuitupou
    Clarke
    Lomu
    Mils

    Mealamu
    Dowd
    Faumuina
    Luatua
    Blowers
    Tonu’u
    Evans
    Howlett

    Gone with Evans as he was a bloody good player, despite only being there one year. Covers 10/15
    Can afford to have a 14/15 on the bench as Mils covers midfield.



  • @gunner said in All time Blues XV:

    Gone with Evans as he was a bloody good player, despite only being there one year. Covers 10/15

    Good player obviously, but I struggle to put Evans in an all time Blues team when his form for the Blues was poor. He was replaced by Nacewa that year



  • @duluth said in All time Blues XV:

    @gunner said in All time Blues XV:

    Gone with Evans as he was a bloody good player, despite only bkeing there one year. Covers 10/15

    Good player obviously, but I struggle to put Evans in an all time Blues team when his form for the Blues was poor. He was replaced by Nacewa that year

    Fair enough - my memory of his form whilst at the Blues is poor.



  • I’d have Rok ahead of Lomu. His record at the Blues over a long period was excellent. I think overall Rok was better for the Blues.

    Howlett ahead of Mils. And even though he was only there for a relatively short period, Caucau was simply awesome in a Blues jersey.

    I was a big fan of both Eroni Clarke and Tuitupo.

    Spencer full stop. No other 10 in Blues history comes close. Mertz was better though....



  • Cashmore
    Doug
    Clarke
    Tuitupo
    Rupeni
    Carlos
    Devine
    Zinny
    Braid
    MJ
    Brooke
    Williams
    Brown
    Fitzy
    Dowd



  • Mils ahead of Cashmore with Nacewa on bench covering 10,15. Leaves room for either Dougie or Vidiri on the bench.
    Did MJ play at 7 for blues? Hadn't he moved by then? If that is the case, he has to play 6 with JK on bench instead of Blowers.



  • You could almost roll out the 2003 backline , cant remember exactly how it went , but i do remember as an attacking unit , it was as good if not better as any backline i have seen operating at super rugby level



  • If there was ever one player I wanted ABs to poach, it was Rupeni. Omg I wanted to see what he looked like wearing black. (And if not for pressure from back home, I’ve always believed he was a little heartbroken that he never got to do it.)



  • @act-crusader said in All time Blues XV:

    Spencer full stop. No other 10 in Blues history comes close. Mertz was better though....

    Oh, really?

    #TwistsTheKnife



  • @salacious-crumb said in All time Blues XV:

    #TwistsTheKnife

    Given our current performance, this just makes me sad now.



  • @salacious-crumb said in All time Blues XV:

    If there was ever one player I wanted ABs to poach, it was Rupeni. Omg I wanted to see what he looked like wearing black. (And if not for pressure from back home, I’ve always believed he was a little heartbroken that he never got to do it.)

    Yeah I would love to have seen it for no other reason to see the best brought out in him , was an exceptional natural talent , was sad to see him running around fat and slow a few years later



  • For me, Olo Brown is another certainty. He was the best tighthead prop in the world in the late nineties while Charlie Faumuina never was.



  • @cgrant said in All time Blues XV:

    For me, Olo Brown is another certainty. He was the best tighthead prop in the world in the late nineties while Charlie Faumuina never was.

    Olo was insanely good. One of the only players I can remember who didn't have to trial for the All Blacks - they tested his backups, rather than him. Straightest back in the game, and just not interested in a public profile.

    Wish I could 'like' your post twice.



  • @salacious-crumb said in All time Blues XV:

    @act-crusader said in All time Blues XV:

    Spencer full stop. No other 10 in Blues history comes close. Mertz was better though....

    Oh, really?

    #TwistsTheKnife

    I reckon Tana needs two or three more years - he's definitely getting there! 🙂



  • @gt12 said in Blues all time XV:

    @duluth

    That’s fine, Mealamu probably makes an all-time Chiefs 15 ahead of Hika.

    If I were selecting that Blues team though, I’d pick 23. Makes it a little easier to squeeze in some extra players 🙂

    Toeava at 12 for me. I still hate it that he never got a proper shot at that position, but when he was fit, and at 12, he was unstoppable. If not there, 23 for sure.

    I like Ice at 12 as well. He had some really dominate performances at 12 and his peak at the position was higher than any of the other options.

    Like you, I would've loved to have seen him get an extended run at 12, but because we always had other 12 options around like McAlister and Stanley during his time here, he had to play other positions more to fit the best players in the backline.



  • @chris-b said in Blues all time XV:

    @salacious-crumb said in All time Blues XV:

    @act-crusader said in All time Blues XV:

    Spencer full stop. No other 10 in Blues history comes close. Mertz was better though....

    Oh, really?

    #TwistsTheKnife

    I reckon Tana needs two or three more years - he's definitely getting there! 🙂

    #culturechange



  • @dice

    Yeah, I can't really justify picking him anywhere except 23 in this team (even there is a bit hard with the class over the years), but if I were picking the Blues team I wanted to see play, he'd be at 12.



  • @mariner4life said in Blues all time XV:

    Cashmore
    Doug
    Clarke
    Tuitupo
    Rupeni
    Carlos
    Devine
    Zinny
    Braid
    MJ
    Brooke
    Williams
    Brown
    Fitzy
    Dowd

    Nailed it.



  • Ok, it seems like everyone else is letting this one go - Cashmore??? Over 100 test AB fullback Mils?



  • @nepia said in Blues all time XV:

    Ok, it seems like everyone else is letting this one go - Cashmore??? Over 100 test AB fullback Mils?

    Just on the logic of this.

    It's about what he did at the Blues.

    Mils played for the Blues between 2002 and 2005. Which were a combination of centre, wing, fullback.

    Otherwise Blues would stick Nonu at 12.



  • Cashmore was an amazing goal kicker too



  • @kiwimurph said in Blues all time XV:

    @nepia said in Blues all time XV:

    Ok, it seems like everyone else is letting this one go - Cashmore??? Over 100 test AB fullback Mils?

    Just on the logic of this.

    It's about what he did at the Blues.

    Mils played for the Blues between 2002 and 2005. Which were a combination of centre, wing, fullback.

    Otherwise Blues would stick Nonu at 12.

    Seems to be minimising his input at the Blues unfairly (especially with the Nonu analogy). For one, didn't he start in 2001? Anyway, aside from 2003 I expect that he mostly started at fullback.

    He's in my Blues all time XV anyway ... you guys are welcome to Cashmore. 😉



  • @nepia

    In 2003 he was still mostly a reserve (Rok, Rupeni, Howlett in the back 3, Gear at centre)

    He got more time as a starter after making the ABs



  • @duluth said in Blues all time XV:

    @nepia

    In 2003 he was still mostly a reserve (Rok, Rupeni, Howlett in the back 3, Gear at centre)

    He got more time as a starter after making the ABs

    Which was only 2 seasons. The same number of seasons Nonu played for the Blues...



  • @duluth said in Blues all time XV:

    @nepia

    In 2003 he was still mostly a reserve (Rok, Rupeni, Howlett in the back 3, Gear at centre)

    He got more time as a starter after making the ABs

    I don't think that is true, but don't have my almanacks over here yet, he played the final at least in 2003.



  • @nepia

    Yes he did play the final. That was because Rupeni was injured

    He got into the AB's after the SR season because there were a couple of injuries (MacDonald and someone else)
    It was a bit of a surprise, even for Blues fans.

    But he took his chance, played well, and became a fixture int he AB side.



  • @kiwimurph said in Blues all time XV:

    @mariner4life said in Blues all time XV:

    Cashmore
    Doug
    Clarke
    Tuitupo
    Rupeni
    Carlos
    Devine
    Zinny
    Braid
    MJ
    Brooke
    Williams
    Brown
    Fitzy
    Dowd

    Nailed it.

    Tuitupu + E. Clarke in midfield don't make a good combination. Tuitupu was too one dimensional. I would go with Lee Stensness who was a complete footballer who created a lot of tries for this mates.



  • @duluth possibly on the back of being an outstanding 7's player?



  • @bones

    Maybe.. But he did play well when he got game time for the Blues.

    The weird thing about his AB selection was that he was largely considered a 13 who sometimes played wing for Auckland/Blues
    When Rupeni was out Gear went to the wing and Mils was centre

    [edit]small correction, he was selected as a centre/wing reserve for the AB's. Injuries forced him to start at 15 in his second Test[edit]



  • @cgrant said in Blues all time XV:

    @kiwimurph said in Blues all time XV:

    @mariner4life said in Blues all time XV:

    Cashmore
    Doug
    Clarke
    Tuitupo
    Rupeni
    Carlos
    Devine
    Zinny
    Braid
    MJ
    Brooke
    Williams
    Brown
    Fitzy
    Dowd

    Nailed it.

    Tuitupu + E. Clarke in midfield don't make a good combination. Tuitupu was too one dimensional. I would go with Lee Stensness who was a complete footballer who created a lot of tries for this mates.

    Tuitupou wasn't one dimensional, he was just an outstanding hitter, so some people incorrectly jump to one dimensional. He was a deft distributor.



  • @nepia said in Blues all time XV:

    I don't think that is true, but don't have my almanacks over here yet, he played the final at least in 2003.

    I take it back. Had a quick check, Mils started more than Gear. Gear still played more than Rupeni surprisingly.. but Gear was the one moving around to cover other peoples injuries



  • Genuine question. How does anyone have Braid over Blowers?



  • @mn5 the fact that it's you asking this question just fits so well when you look at the periods they played in.

    You might want to jump on the Canes thread and query the selection of Perenara over Preston.



  • @bones said in Blues all time XV:

    @mn5 the fact that it's you asking this question just fits so well when you look at the periods they played in.

    You might want to jump on the Canes thread and query the selection of Perenara over Preston.

    Marty Berry hasnt even been mentioned as an option. I have no time for that thread.

    Blowers did win more titles than Braid. Again, genuine question.



  • Good job we're not operating a no assholes selection policy - or else Blues would be very light at lock.

    Also think the team is comparatively weak in midfield and at halfback


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