Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup
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Not long, until this year's draw will be announced.
After the news of Tiaan Falcon's long-term injury, which may see him miss the beginning (if not all) of the 2019 season, I decided to have a look at what has - until now - been published about player signings, either by the HBRU or in the HBT.Let me start with repeating what HBRU CEO Jay Campbell said (according to the HBT on 25 October): "he believed all of this season's squad would be available next season but it would be up to Ozich and Syms who they wanted".
Not sure whether this is really the case, or wishfull thinking. Players may move on after missing out on an SR contract, taking other opportunities (e.g., JJ Taulagi in France). We also know from previous seasons that usually the majority of imports doesn't stick around. Of course, that may be different this year.
Anyway, I've checked my notes on signings, and this is my list:
2018 squad - contract status
Prop
Joe Apikotoa (TH)
Mark Braidwood (LH)
Tim Farrell (LH)
Jason Long (LH, also hooker)
Ben May (TH) - signed
Pouri Rakete-Stones (TH)
Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe - don't know whether he's signed on the same terms as the other former Hastings 1st XV national champsHooker
Jacob Devery
Ash Dixon - signed
Kianu Kereru Symes (also prop) - signed
Ben PowerLock
Michael Allardice - ? (SR contract expires 2019)
Geoff Cridge (also 6)
Tom Parsons - signed
Brodie Retallick - signed (but with ABs)
Sam UlufonuaLoose forward
Hannon Brighouse
Gareth Evans (8, also 7) - ? (SR contract expires 2020/ ABs unlikely but possible)
Devan Flanders (6/8) - signed
Solomone Funaki (7)
Josh Kaifa (7)
Marino Mikaele-Tu'u (6/8) - ? (SR contract expires 2020)
Fa'alemiga Selesele (7)
Will Tremain (7)Halfback
Folau Fakatava - signed
Brad Weber - ? (SR contract expires 2020)First five-eighth
Tiaan Falcon - signed (but when will he return from injury?)
Lincoln McClutchie - signedMidfielder
Pasqualle Dunn (12) - off contract
Sasa Tofilau (12)
Shae Tucker (13)Outside back
Michael Buckley (wing)
Mason Emerson (wing) - off contract
Jonah Lowe (wing, also 13) - off contract
JJ Taulagi (fullback, wing) -
Danny Toala (fullback, also 12) - signedUtility back
Stacey Ili (utility back: 13, also 10)Richard Buckman (utility back) - signed
Israel Dagg (fullback, wing) - signed
Sam McNicol (wing, fullback) - signed? (expected to return from injury)Liam Udy-Johns (no.8) - academy contract (the only one I know about)
- I expect that those players whose contracts expire in 2020 (or later) will have a Magpies contract for 2019, too, but it hasn't been published as far as I know.
- If they'll indeed play for us this year, it will most likely be the last Magpies' season for Richard Buckman and Israel Dagg. I also expect this to be the final season for Ash Dixon and Ben May.
- It also wouldn't surprise me if Michael Allardice is going to try his luck overseas after this year's SR season.
So, who's on your must-sign list? Where are the biggest gaps? Who do you definitely not want to be re-signed?
Obviously, Jonah Lowe, Mason Emerson, Tim Farrell and Geoff Cridge are the must-signs for me. Josh Kaifa was handy, too. Youngsters such as Tavita-Metcalfe, Devery and Tremain need to be developed further, so I'd also like them re-signed. I'm inclined to say the same about Rakete-Stones. I'm not sure what went wrong for him in 2018; he didn't get many opportunities and I don't know why (I'm not sold on Apikotoa). Considering the overall shortage of good locks, I hope Allardice stays as well (even though I'm not his biggest fan, there aren't that many others to chose from).
My major wish is to sign another good 10, with Falcon possibly out for the season (or at least the start of it). Ili at 10 was a disaster, and I can't see Dagg play there. McClutchie really needs to learn how to kick at goal. Toala can do the goalkicking, maybe Dagg, but for game management at 10 we're just "too light" if Falcon is out for most or all of the season.
They had enough game time, but Power and Tofilau didn't convince me. If Bucky is back this season, we don't need Tofilau.
For the future, I wonder whether Napier Boys' Tyrone (2) and Leo (13) Thompson indeed ended up in another province, or not; I'd like them on an academy contract.
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@Stargazer The horse has probably bolted.
Wellington (Hurricanes) look to be interested in HB players only if they can nab them as one of their own
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@Stargazer said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
@Higgins Dammit. Wellington schools can't beat Hawke's Bay schools, so Wellington steals our players as soon as they leave school. I blame the Canes. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr
'Don't worry, we'll take it from here.....'
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@Stargazer the Irony in your comment when Ben Power, Hannon Brighouse and Joe Apikotoa were all schooled in Wellington before you buggers poached them.
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@Canes4life said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
@Stargazer the Irony in your comment when Ben Power, Hannon Brighouse and Joe Apikotoa were all schooled in Wellington before you buggers poached them.
Apikotoa is the only one of the leftovers from Wellington the Canes foisted on us that we actually want!
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It looks like Hugh Renton is back in the bay,he played sevens for Havelock on Saturday and Sam Ulufonua has gone to Italy.
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@kiwimatrix Yeah, I posted about Ulufonua in the Exodus thread. He's now playing for Verona in the Top 12; I assume he's in the frame to play for Tonga at the RWC, too.
If Renton is staying (I guess we'll have to wait and see whether he'll play club rugby), I assume he'll be the prime candidate for the 7 jersey? With Kaifa (if he's still in the Bay) and Brighouse battling for one spot in the squad?
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Caleb Makene should be a decent replacement for Tuilangi,imo.
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@kiwimatrix said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
Caleb Makene should be a decent replacement for Tuilangi,imo.
Is he also back in the Bay? Or just wishful thinking?
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@Nepia Yeah hes signed a 2 year deal.Theres an article in Hawkes bay today which also mentions Pasquale Dunn has gone back to Auckland and obviously Falcon is unavailable with injury. Ben Smith a north harbour sevens rep and Antonio Mikaele Tu,u are both playing club rugby in the bay and trying to get a magpies spot.
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@kiwimatrix said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
@Nepia Yeah hes signed a 2 year deal.Theres an article in Hawkes bay today which also mentions Pasquale Dunn has gone back to Auckland and obviously Falcon is unavailable with injury. Ben Smith a north harbour sevens rep and Antonio Mikaele Tu,u are both playing club rugby in the bay and trying to get a magpies spot.
Awesome! Always good to have Bay boys come back home. Now we just have to convince the Canes to start selecting our players instead of favouring Wellingtonians.
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@kiwimatrix Great news! I see that Ben Smith is a Hastings Boys 1st XV product, so also homegrown.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12205531
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@Stargazer said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
I see that Ben Smith is a Hastings Boys 1st XV product, so also homegrown.
I wish that was another Ben Smith.
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Here's the HBT article about the AGM
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12207610
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Mason Emerson was grabbing a coffee from the same place as me this morning. He looked very fit and even more muscly than last year - I hope he has not lost any speed. I always thought he was smaller - maybe he looks taller with his huge mop of hair
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Change of jersey sponsor. O'Neill instead of Paladin, meaning a new jersey this year. Please, real black and white hoops!
We are delighted to announce a new partnership with O’Neills Sportswear Australasia! - Founded 1918 in Ireland, O'Neills are steeped in history being the largest sports manufacturing company in Ireland. They are the predominant supplier to gaelic football and many super league and rugby clubs throughout the UK. In Australasia you will see them on the Brumbies Rugby apparel in Super Rugby and the Magpies are looking forward to debuting the new O’Neills playing kit in the 2019 Mitre 10 Cup. Keep your eyes peeled for the new Magpies Jersey and apparel range coming soon! #ChoiceOfhampions -
@Stargazer said in Magpies - 2019 Mitre 10 Cup:
Change of jersey sponsor. O'Neill instead of Paladin, meaning a new jersey this year. Please, real black and white hoops!
Hopefully better supporters gear, I rushed out and bought a jersey, t shirt and hoodie when they first signed with Palladin, well I got my sister to grab them for me and send them over, and I've barely worn any of them because they're kind of ugly.
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This is the announcement by O'Neills:
We are delighted to announce a four year partnership with Hawkes Bay Magpies - one of the most recognisable rugby brands in New Zealand with a fiercely loyal fanbase. O'Neills are bringing state of the art playing kit for Hawkes Bay rugby and supporters gear that fans want to wear. The Magpies will debut the new O’Neills playing kit in the 2019 Mitre 10 Cup. We are all Magpies Now! #oneills #oneills100years #thechoiceofchampions #rugby #rugbynz #newzealand #mitre10cup #magpies #hbmagpies #weareallmagpiesnowSo a four-year partnership.
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@Number-10 Sounds like he had recently been some kind of midseason replacement for Verona in Italy.
Il Verona Rugby presenta il nuovo arrivo Sam Ulufonua
Arrivata da Hawkes's Bay in Nuova Zelanda l’ultimo giocatore ingaggiato dal Verona Rugby in questo mercato di metà stagione. Il Verona...
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@Stargazer That answers the U20s question.
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@Nepia It doesn't anwer the question clearly, though. What kind of visa issue? Considering he's a professional rugby player, he must at least have a work visa now (maybe the Talent (Arts, Culture, Sports) Work Visa). A visa to enter Argentina? Can't imagine they wouldn't let him in for the JWC.
I'd love to hear an explanation.
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Sam McNicol to play again this year, hopefully, starting with club rugby.
Is still currently signed to the Chiefs.
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Yay good news, and even playing club rugby for the good guys when he comes back
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I wonder whether the HBRU is going to announce this officially?
wfc_axemen: Our club would like to congratulate @ollie_sapsford for signing with @hbmagpies he will be a great part of your team. Ollie has been an absolute professional and role model for all. Making him an important part of our club for the past few years. Ollie can often be found on Hataitai Park working on his tan or in the hair care aisle at your local super market. From everyone at the club we wish you all the best on your next chapter and hope to see you in an Axemen jersey again in the future! #WellingtonAxemen #GiveEmTheAxe
https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/photos/a.140806072626809/2748849855155738
