RWC: England v USA (Pool C)
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England
15 Elliot Daly
14 Ruaridh McConnochie
13 Jonathan Joseph
12 Piers Francis
11 Joe Cokanasiga
10 George Ford (c)
9 Willi Heinz
8 Billy Vunipola
7 Lewis Ludlam
6 Tom Curry
5 George Kruis
4 Joe Launchbury
3 Dan Cole
2 Luke Cowan-Dickie
1 Joe MarlerReplacements
16 Jack Singleton
17 Ellis Genge
18 Kyle Sinckler
19 Courtney Lawes
20 Mark Wilson
21 Ben Youngs
22 Owen Farrell
23 Anthony Watson -
Gold from Eddie
England coach Eddie Jones' quip that the United States will play like "15 Donald Trumps'' when the teams meet at the Rugby World Cup in Japan on Thursday has intensified the build-up to what should be a routine win for the English. Jones, an Australian, said he only meant that the Americans would be fired up for their opening game. "They're going to come out all guns blazing,'' Jones said, hardly making it any better.
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Knowing how integral Billy V is to England's chances of advancing out of this pool and on, I can't fathom why he's even being considered for this match.
That'll mean he'll start at every match in this WC.
Asking for trouble.
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USA
1 David Ainuu
2 Joe Taufete'e
3 Titi Lamositele
4 Ben Landry
5 Nick Civetta
6 Tony Lamborn
7 John Quill
8 Cam Dolan
9 Shaun Davies
10 AJ MacGinty
11 Martin Iosefo
12 Paul Lasike
13 Marcel Brache
14 Blaine Scully (capt.)
15 Will HooleyReserves:
16 Dylan Fawsitt
17 Olive Kilifi
18 Paul Mullen
19 Greg Peterson
20 Hanco Germishuys
21 Ruben de Haas
22 Bryce Campbell
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
Knowing how integral Billy V is to England's chances of advancing out of this pool and on, I can't fathom why he's even being considered for this match.
That'll mean he'll start at every match in this WC.
Asking for trouble.
I've mentioned before that he over works his Vunipolas. And I guessthis will be Tuilagi's only rest. No one else hits up anywhere as near as effectively
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
Knowing how integral Billy V is to England's chances of advancing out of this pool and on, I can't fathom why he's even being considered for this match.
That'll mean he'll start at every match in this WC.
Asking for trouble.
Whilst I agree with you, Eddie might say "Look at Lawrence Dallaglio at RWC 2003". Every minute of every game and he was pretty fundamental to England's gameplay too. Not quite in the Billy level I admit.
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You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!
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@Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!
Heinz has been superb over the last 12 months in the Premiership for Gloucester. I think his leadership could be important in what will be some close games coming up. It was a close call between him and Care for that spot, but there were other good halfbacks that he got picked over as well.
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@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!
Heinz has been superb over the last 12 months in the Premiership for Gloucester. I think his leadership could be important in what will be some close games coming up. It was a close call between him and Care for that spot, but there were other good halfbacks that he got picked over as well.
He also played for Canterbury, so that makes him pretty fuckin' awesome as well!!
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@Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!
Heinz has been superb over the last 12 months in the Premiership for Gloucester. I think his leadership could be important in what will be some close games coming up. It was a close call between him and Care for that spot, but there were other good halfbacks that he got picked over as well.
He also played for Canterbury, so that makes him pretty fuckin' awesome as well!!
It certainly doesn't hurt.
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@Canerbry said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!
Heinz has been superb over the last 12 months in the Premiership for Gloucester. I think his leadership could be important in what will be some close games coming up. It was a close call between him and Care for that spot, but there were other good halfbacks that he got picked over as well.
He also played for Canterbury, so that makes him pretty fuckin' awesome as well!!
It certainly doesn't hurt.
Liked for its predictability.
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@Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!
Piers Francis has looked easily at home in test rugby - almost as good as Parkes.
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So bizarre by Eddie, humble reaction from USA though
"At this stage, with all due respect, we're not a good enough rugby team to be making comments or answers to questions like that," Gold, a South African, said when asked for his reaction to Jones' 15 Donald Trumps comparison. "I don't know what it means."It is really unfortunate but here in the US the world cup is not really featuring anywhere at all.
NBC own the rights and are charging a ridiculous amount to show it, so I have to resort to streaming the games. Hard to grow rugby when no one can afford to watch it.Anyway, go the US and pull off a huge upset
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@Darren said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
So bizarre by Eddie, humble reaction from USA though
"At this stage, with all due respect, we're not a good enough rugby team to be making comments or answers to questions like that," Gold, a South African, said when asked for his reaction to Jones' 15 Donald Trumps comparison. "I don't know what it means."It is really unfortunate but here in the US the world cup is not really featuring anywhere at all.
NBC own the rights and are charging a ridiculous amount to show it, so I have to resort to streaming the games. Hard to grow rugby when no one can afford to watch it.Anyway, go the US and pull off a huge upset
Well I guess Eddie is doing his part to try and get some attention
A number of those Uruguay players come from the USA league I see.
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@Canerbry said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!
Heinz has been superb over the last 12 months in the Premiership for Gloucester. I think his leadership could be important in what will be some close games coming up. It was a close call between him and Care for that spot, but there were other good halfbacks that he got picked over as well.
He also played for Canterbury, so that makes him pretty fuckin' awesome as well!!
It certainly doesn't hurt.
He'll be a cert. for the tournament team!
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@Bones said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!
Piers Francis has looked easily at home in test rugby - almost as good as Parkes.
Damning with faint praise.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@Bones said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!
Piers Francis has looked easily at home in test rugby - almost as good as Parkes.
Damning with faint praise.
Not really when Parkes is one of the best performers in one of the other top teams in the world.
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@Bones well I was being light hearted... but sure....
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@Bones well I was being light hearted... but sure....
Things get pretty edgy when blues players are criticised around here...
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I really like Eddie Jones
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@mariner4life said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
I really like Eddie Jones
He is the biggest piston wristed gibbon in world rugby.
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Final margin ~35 points?
I expect some of the big contenders will be doing much the same as the All Blacks did four years ago; using minnows to develop their game.
Eddie is a smart coach so I exoect he has a plan other than simply win and give his wider squad a hit out.
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More than 40 IMHO
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@voodoo said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@mariner4life said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
I really like Eddie Jones
He is the biggest piston wristed gibbon in world rugby.
What does Cheika have to do with this?
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@voodoo said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@mariner4life said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
I really like Eddie Jones
He is the biggest piston wristed gibbon in world rugby.
Not even close
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
More than 40 IMHO
Think you might be right. USA is terrible and it's only been six minutes.
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Can somebody please explain how Francis is still on the park?
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Mullins is so cringe trying to make up nicknames for the players
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USA scrum half is handy
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@MiketheSnow Hit shoulder I thought (if you're talking about the opening kick off)
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Australian ref is terrible. Must be a quota selection.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
USA scrum half is handy
Not a bad effort from a little fella to hold up Vunipola near the start there.
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@TeWaio said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
@MiketheSnow Hit shoulder I thought (if you're talking about the opening kick off)
No
The hit when the USA 10 (I think) marked the up and under -
USA backs dominating ENG forwards on defence!
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Brace lucky there.
Head to Launchbury's face/chin
That's two for the judiciary to have a look at
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England hit off their stride.
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Tried and tested.
England have to offer more than this tbf
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@Bones said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
USA backs dominating ENG forwards on defence!
The USA 2nd 5 has a touch of the Sam Tuitupo to him in defence.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):
Tried and tested.
England have to offer more than this tbf
Nah, this is about 5 points and little more. 2015 pool stages proved these minnow games mean nothing
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Another try to please @MiketheSnow