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    • ACT Crusader
      ACT Crusader last edited by Duluth

      England

      15 Elliot Daly
      14 Ruaridh McConnochie
      13 Jonathan Joseph
      12 Piers Francis
      11 Joe Cokanasiga
      10 George Ford (c)
      9 Willi Heinz
      8 Billy Vunipola
      7 Lewis Ludlam
      6 Tom Curry
      5 George Kruis
      4 Joe Launchbury
      3 Dan Cole
      2 Luke Cowan-Dickie
      1 Joe Marler

      Replacements
      16 Jack Singleton
      17 Ellis Genge
      18 Kyle Sinckler
      19 Courtney Lawes
      20 Mark Wilson
      21 Ben Youngs
      22 Owen Farrell
      23 Anthony Watson

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      • KiwiMurph
        KiwiMurph last edited by

        Gold from Eddie

        England coach Eddie Jones' quip that the United States will play like "15 Donald Trumps'' when the teams meet at the Rugby World Cup in Japan on Thursday has intensified the build-up to what should be a routine win for the English.
        
        Jones, an Australian, said he only meant that the Americans would be fired up for their opening game.
                                                                                                                                                                            
        "They're going to come out all guns blazing,'' Jones said, hardly making it any better.
        

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116071010/rugby-world-cup-eddie-jones-says-usa-will-come-at-england-like-15-donald-trumps

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        • MiketheSnow
          MiketheSnow last edited by MiketheSnow

          Knowing how integral Billy V is to England's chances of advancing out of this pool and on, I can't fathom why he's even being considered for this match.

          That'll mean he'll start at every match in this WC.

          Asking for trouble.

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          • Stargazer
            Stargazer last edited by

            USA

            1 David Ainuu
            2 Joe Taufete'e
            3 Titi Lamositele
            4 Ben Landry
            5 Nick Civetta
            6 Tony Lamborn
            7 John Quill
            8 Cam Dolan
            9 Shaun Davies
            10 AJ MacGinty
            11 Martin Iosefo
            12 Paul Lasike
            13 Marcel Brache
            14 Blaine Scully (capt.)
            15 Will Hooley

            Reserves:
            16 Dylan Fawsitt
            17 Olive Kilifi
            18 Paul Mullen
            19 Greg Peterson
            20 Hanco Germishuys
            21 Ruben de Haas
            22 Bryce Campbell
            23 Mike Te’o

            https://rwc.usa.rugby/united-states-vs-england-preview/

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            • Machpants
              Machpants @MiketheSnow last edited by

              @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

              Knowing how integral Billy V is to England's chances of advancing out of this pool and on, I can't fathom why he's even being considered for this match.

              That'll mean he'll start at every match in this WC.

              Asking for trouble.

              I've mentioned before that he over works his Vunipolas. And I guessthis will be Tuilagi's only rest. No one else hits up anywhere as near as effectively

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              • Catogrande
                Catogrande @MiketheSnow last edited by

                @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                Knowing how integral Billy V is to England's chances of advancing out of this pool and on, I can't fathom why he's even being considered for this match.

                That'll mean he'll start at every match in this WC.

                Asking for trouble.

                Whilst I agree with you, Eddie might say "Look at Lawrence Dallaglio at RWC 2003". Every minute of every game and he was pretty fundamental to England's gameplay too. Not quite in the Billy level I admit.

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                • Frank
                  Frank last edited by

                  You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!

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                  • ACT Crusader
                    ACT Crusader @Frank last edited by

                    @Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                    You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!

                    Heinz has been superb over the last 12 months in the Premiership for Gloucester. I think his leadership could be important in what will be some close games coming up. It was a close call between him and Care for that spot, but there were other good halfbacks that he got picked over as well.

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                    • Frank
                      Frank @ACT Crusader last edited by

                      @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                      @Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                      You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!

                      Heinz has been superb over the last 12 months in the Premiership for Gloucester. I think his leadership could be important in what will be some close games coming up. It was a close call between him and Care for that spot, but there were other good halfbacks that he got picked over as well.

                      He also played for Canterbury, so that makes him pretty fuckin' awesome as well!!

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                      • Canerbry
                        Canerbry @Frank last edited by

                        @Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                        @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                        @Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                        You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!

                        Heinz has been superb over the last 12 months in the Premiership for Gloucester. I think his leadership could be important in what will be some close games coming up. It was a close call between him and Care for that spot, but there were other good halfbacks that he got picked over as well.

                        He also played for Canterbury, so that makes him pretty fuckin' awesome as well!!

                        It certainly doesn't hurt.

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                        • Catogrande
                          Catogrande @Canerbry last edited by

                          @Canerbry said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                          @Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                          @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                          @Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                          You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!

                          Heinz has been superb over the last 12 months in the Premiership for Gloucester. I think his leadership could be important in what will be some close games coming up. It was a close call between him and Care for that spot, but there were other good halfbacks that he got picked over as well.

                          He also played for Canterbury, so that makes him pretty fuckin' awesome as well!!

                          It certainly doesn't hurt.

                          Liked for its predictability.

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                          • Bones
                            Bones @Frank last edited by

                            @Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                            You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!

                            Piers Francis has looked easily at home in test rugby - almost as good as Parkes.

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                            • D
                              Darren last edited by

                              So bizarre by Eddie, humble reaction from USA though
                              "At this stage, with all due respect, we're not a good enough rugby team to be making comments or answers to questions like that," Gold, a South African, said when asked for his reaction to Jones' 15 Donald Trumps comparison. "I don't know what it means."

                              It is really unfortunate but here in the US the world cup is not really featuring anywhere at all.
                              NBC own the rights and are charging a ridiculous amount to show it, so I have to resort to streaming the games. Hard to grow rugby when no one can afford to watch it.

                              Anyway, go the US and pull off a huge upset 🙂

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                              • Bones
                                Bones @Darren last edited by

                                @Darren said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                So bizarre by Eddie, humble reaction from USA though
                                "At this stage, with all due respect, we're not a good enough rugby team to be making comments or answers to questions like that," Gold, a South African, said when asked for his reaction to Jones' 15 Donald Trumps comparison. "I don't know what it means."

                                It is really unfortunate but here in the US the world cup is not really featuring anywhere at all.
                                NBC own the rights and are charging a ridiculous amount to show it, so I have to resort to streaming the games. Hard to grow rugby when no one can afford to watch it.

                                Anyway, go the US and pull off a huge upset 🙂

                                Well I guess Eddie is doing his part to try and get some attention 🙂

                                A number of those Uruguay players come from the USA league I see.

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                                • Chris B.
                                  Chris B. @Canerbry last edited by

                                  @Canerbry said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                  @Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                  @Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                  You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!

                                  Heinz has been superb over the last 12 months in the Premiership for Gloucester. I think his leadership could be important in what will be some close games coming up. It was a close call between him and Care for that spot, but there were other good halfbacks that he got picked over as well.

                                  He also played for Canterbury, so that makes him pretty fuckin' awesome as well!!

                                  It certainly doesn't hurt.

                                  He'll be a cert. for the tournament team! 🙂

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                                  • KiwiMurph
                                    KiwiMurph @Bones last edited by

                                    @Bones said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                    @Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                    You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!

                                    Piers Francis has looked easily at home in test rugby - almost as good as Parkes.

                                    Damning with faint praise.

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                                    • Bones
                                      Bones @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                      @KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                      @Bones said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                      @Frank said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                      You know England's depth is superb when you have powerhouses like Willi Heinz and Piers Francis in the 2nd team!

                                      Piers Francis has looked easily at home in test rugby - almost as good as Parkes.

                                      Damning with faint praise.

                                      Not really when Parkes is one of the best performers in one of the other top teams in the world.

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                                      • KiwiMurph
                                        KiwiMurph @Bones last edited by

                                        @Bones well I was being light hearted... but sure....

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                                        • Bones
                                          Bones @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                          @KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                          @Bones well I was being light hearted... but sure....

                                          Things get pretty edgy when blues players are criticised around here...

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                                          • mariner4life
                                            mariner4life last edited by

                                            I really like Eddie Jones

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                                            • voodoo
                                              voodoo @mariner4life last edited by

                                              @mariner4life said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                              I really like Eddie Jones

                                              He is the biggest piston wristed gibbon in world rugby.

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                                              • antipodean
                                                antipodean last edited by

                                                Final margin ~35 points?

                                                I expect some of the big contenders will be doing much the same as the All Blacks did four years ago; using minnows to develop their game.

                                                Eddie is a smart coach so I exoect he has a plan other than simply win and give his wider squad a hit out.

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                                                • MiketheSnow
                                                  MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                  More than 40 IMHO

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                                                  • KiwiMurph
                                                    KiwiMurph @voodoo last edited by

                                                    @voodoo said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                                    @mariner4life said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                                    I really like Eddie Jones

                                                    He is the biggest piston wristed gibbon in world rugby.

                                                    What does Cheika have to do with this?

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                                                    • mariner4life
                                                      mariner4life @voodoo last edited by

                                                      @voodoo said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                                      @mariner4life said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                                      I really like Eddie Jones

                                                      He is the biggest piston wristed gibbon in world rugby.

                                                      Not even close

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                                                      • antipodean
                                                        antipodean @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                        @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                                        More than 40 IMHO

                                                        Think you might be right. USA is terrible and it's only been six minutes.

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                                                        • MiketheSnow
                                                          MiketheSnow last edited by MiketheSnow

                                                          Can somebody please explain how Francis is still on the park?

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                                                          • MiketheSnow
                                                            MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                            Mullins is so cringe trying to make up nicknames for the players

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                                                            • MiketheSnow
                                                              MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                              USA scrum half is handy

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                                                              • TeWaio
                                                                TeWaio @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                @MiketheSnow Hit shoulder I thought (if you're talking about the opening kick off)

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                                                                • antipodean
                                                                  antipodean last edited by

                                                                  Australian ref is terrible. Must be a quota selection.

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                                                                  • Bones
                                                                    Bones @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                                                    USA scrum half is handy

                                                                    Not a bad effort from a little fella to hold up Vunipola near the start there.

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                                                                    • MiketheSnow
                                                                      MiketheSnow @TeWaio last edited by

                                                                      @TeWaio said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                                                      @MiketheSnow Hit shoulder I thought (if you're talking about the opening kick off)

                                                                      No
                                                                      The hit when the USA 10 (I think) marked the up and under

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                                                                      • Bones
                                                                        Bones last edited by

                                                                        USA backs dominating ENG forwards on defence!

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                                                                        • MiketheSnow
                                                                          MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                          Brace lucky there.

                                                                          Head to Launchbury's face/chin

                                                                          That's two for the judiciary to have a look at

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                                                                          • MiketheSnow
                                                                            MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                            England hit off their stride.

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                                                                            • MiketheSnow
                                                                              MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                              Tried and tested.

                                                                              England have to offer more than this tbf

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                                                                              • ACT Crusader
                                                                                ACT Crusader @Bones last edited by

                                                                                @Bones said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                                                                USA backs dominating ENG forwards on defence!

                                                                                The USA 2nd 5 has a touch of the Sam Tuitupo to him in defence.

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                                                                                • mariner4life
                                                                                  mariner4life @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                                                                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v USA (Pool C):

                                                                                  Tried and tested.

                                                                                  England have to offer more than this tbf

                                                                                  Nah, this is about 5 points and little more. 2015 pool stages proved these minnow games mean nothing

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                                                                                    African Monkey last edited by

                                                                                    Another try to please @MiketheSnow

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