Coronavirus - New Zealand
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@bovidae said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan I expect many countries/airlines to do the same.
There's plenty of precedent.
I had to prove I'd been vaccinated against Yellow Fever, I think it was, before being allowed into Brazil. And I think before being allowed onto a tiny 6-seater plane in Venezuela before heading to Angel Falls. They might have even vaccinated me again, regardless of the paperwork I had.
I have laughed when people have thought of a “Vaccine Passport” as being a new concept... it's at least decades old. -
@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If I was King, I was also consider mandatory vaccination to attend schools, and many other public areas (restaurants, sporting events, etc).
I understand that would be unpopular with some.
I wouldn't. For a number of reason. Effectively forcing a medical procedure on some when there really no need to is not a good look
But more importantly its risky. The Pfizer vaccine is the new type. If I was King I would only inject the at risk willing first and the non at risk super keen. Then wait and see if there are any adverse long term impacts.
But I would always want a control group anyway. Who better than those that for whatever reason (eg. UK friend reacted quite badly to the flu vaccine 2 yrs running so reluctantly stopped taking them) don't want to take them. This would only ever be a small group as most are super keen
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@winger There's been millions of doses of vaccine delivered worldwide already. There are no health risks to taking it.
Certainly far less than there are to not taking it.
The concern are the speed at which the virus is now mutating. A race to grant people immunity quickly enough that the maths reduces the chances of more successful mutations.
The NZ rollout is actually looking to be faster than I anticipated. Yet another wrong call by the negative ninnies - we will be at the back of the queue.
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@winger medical procedure?
My medical insurer doesnt think that injecting cortisone into my shoulder classes as a medical procedure, so not sure why injecting a vaccine becomes one!
Seen a post on FB, friend of a friend, claiming her sister was hospitalised after getting the vaccine, and some of the people on there commenting about not getting it, yet I know this person likes to travel...be interesting to see how that pans out.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@winger medical procedure?
My medical insurer doesnt think that injecting cortisone into my shoulder classes as a medical procedure, so not sure why injecting a vaccine becomes one!
Seen a post on FB, friend of a friend, claiming her sister was hospitalised after getting the vaccine, and some of the people on there commenting about not getting it, yet I know this person likes to travel...be interesting to see how that pans out.
I think that's where it will settle. Let people feel free to ignore science, but not free from consequence.
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@winger medical procedure?
My medical insurer doesnt think that injecting cortisone into my shoulder classes as a medical procedure, so not sure why injecting a vaccine becomes one!
Seen a post on FB, friend of a friend, claiming her sister was hospitalised after getting the vaccine, and some of the people on there commenting about not getting it, yet I know this person likes to travel...be interesting to see how that pans out.
Anyone who isn't keen to have the jab should happily stand aside, there will be plenty who do. Qantas CEO has already said no jab no go
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
anyone know if Cabinet have made their decision on the levels? They were going to meet this afternoon I thought, but haven't seen anything
Press conference tomorrow morning at 11:30, I think they said on the news.
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
anyone know if Cabinet have made their decision on the levels? They were going to meet this afternoon I thought, but haven't seen anything
Press conference tomorrow morning at 11:30, I think they said on the news.
they can't announce today? Or drop us back again - 12 days with no community transmission, and now we know where the connections are?
Bah, humbug
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
anyone know if Cabinet have made their decision on the levels? They were going to meet this afternoon I thought, but haven't seen anything
Press conference tomorrow morning at 11:30, I think they said on the news.
they can't announce today? Or drop us back again - 12 days with no community transmission, and now we know where the connections are?
Bah, humbug
They should have announced late this afternoon. To give the hospo industry a chance to get ready for a possible full weekend of business
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@godder said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
If people are worried about the testing of these vaccines, they should look up the clinical trials for the original smallpox vaccine...
what did that vaccine ever do for us anyway? It's not like Smallpox is eradicated ....
oh yeah.
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Apparently decision made yesterday, but not released until today
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Apparently decision made yesterday, but not released until today
Why isn't there more outrage about this? If I owned a hospo venue, I think an extra 24hrs might be a little bit useful
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