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    • NateHill74
      NateHill74 last edited by Duluth

      This year is a season that will possibly be an interesting one with us not gaining much international experience while other Championship sides have. Any signings and/or player movements that Otago have done could be talked about here

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      • Tim
        Tim last edited by

        Last year's top try scorer in the Auckland club competition, Freedom Vaha'akolo, has been playing club rugby in Dunedin. Might be a signing?

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        • Stargazer
          Stargazer @NateHill74 last edited by Stargazer

          @NateHill74 Don't worry, the Magpies are traditionally one of the biggest competitors of Otago and vice versa. We only have one returning AB. Taranaki and Manawatū, on the other hand ....

          Otago have Coltman and Josh Ioane, and a few AB7s players, I assume?

          Have Otago lost players to Japan in recent years, who may have returned due to Covid?

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          • Kiwiwomble
            Kiwiwomble @Stargazer last edited by

            @Stargazer Hawkes Bays determination to keep hold of their good players has really made one of our traditional development streams dry up 😉

            Freedom Vaha'akolo, no idea but i hope!

            Lentjes and Dicksons injuries will add some issues, we only have 20 players (including those 2) on our website, maybe left some room fr people shining during the club season

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            • NateHill74
              NateHill74 last edited by

              Saula Ma'u injured for season too with Josh Dickson and James Lentjes. Freedom is part of the wider training group for this year

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              • NateHill74
                NateHill74 last edited by NateHill74

                Wider Training Group The wider training group announcement

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                • Kiwiwomble
                  Kiwiwomble @NateHill74 last edited by Kiwiwomble

                  with Ben smith playing club rugby in dunners...might we see him turn out for Otago, a bit less stressful than super rugby

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                  • NateHill74
                    NateHill74 @Stargazer last edited by

                    @Stargazer I don't think we have any sevens players apart from Taylor Haugh, Vilimoni Koroi, and Jona Nareki, but then again they were all pretty much guaranteed to play provincial anyways. Not sure about the Japanese rugby players returning though. Like Sekonaia Pole

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                    • Tim
                      Tim last edited by

                      What's Aki Seiuli up to?

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                      • NateHill74
                        NateHill74 @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                        @Kiwiwomble No, he's not playing club rugby, just helping out the coaching team for Green Island as they can't risk injury cause they can't pay the Japanese club that he'll turn out for

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                        • NateHill74
                          NateHill74 @Tim last edited by

                          @Tim He's at Glasgow Warriors

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                          • Kiwiwomble
                            Kiwiwomble @NateHill74 last edited by

                            @NateHill74 said in Otago Mitre 10 Cup 2020:

                            @Kiwiwomble No, he's not playing club rugby, just helping out the coaching team for Green Island as they can't risk injury cause they can't pay the Japanese club that he'll turn out for

                            bugger, thought i had seen him say he was looking forward to turning out for green island

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                            • NateHill74
                              NateHill74 last edited by

                              Players guaranteed gone from last year:
                              Aki Seiuli - Glasgow Warriors
                              Angus Williams - Northern Hemisphere
                              Sekonaia Pole?? - Japan
                              Louis Conradie - South Africa
                              Joe Latta - Not too sure, not playing club rugby
                              Joketani Koroi - Stade Francais
                              Rowan Gouws - South Africa
                              Connor McLeod - Hawke's Bay?
                              Harumichi Tatekawa - Japan
                              Henry Purdy - Bristol Bears
                              Saula Ma'u - Injured
                              Josh Dickson - Injured
                              James Lentjes - Injured

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                              • NateHill74
                                NateHill74 @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                @Kiwiwomble yeah, on his instagram he said that he wouldn't be playing but helping out coaching wise

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                                • Stargazer
                                  Stargazer @NateHill74 last edited by

                                  @NateHill74 Yep, Connor McLeod has returned home to Hawke's Bay and is playing club rugby there.

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                                  • NateHill74
                                    NateHill74 last edited by

                                    Players signed for this season:
                                    George Bower - Prop (Crusaders/Harbour)
                                    Jonah Aoina - Prop (Kaikorai)
                                    Hisa Sasagi - Prop (Southern)
                                    Liam Coltman - Hooker (Highlanders/Alhambra Union)
                                    Ricky Jackson - Hooker (Highlanders/University)
                                    SIone Misiloi - Lock/No 6 (Highlanders/Harbour)
                                    Josh Hill - Lock (University)
                                    Slade McDowall - No 7 (Kaikorai)
                                    Dylan Nel - No 8 (Chiefs/Green Island)
                                    Kayne Hammington - Half Back (Highlanders/Zingari Richmond)
                                    Josh Ioane - First Five/Second Five (Highlanders/Southern)
                                    Aleki Morris-Lome - Midfielder (Harbour)
                                    Sio Tomkinson - Midfielder/Wing (Highlanders/Harbour)
                                    Matt Whaanga - Midfielder (Taieri)
                                    Jona Nareki - Wing (Highlanders/Alhambra Union)
                                    Vilimoni Koroi - Full Back/Utility Back (Highlanders/Alhambra Union)
                                    Michael Collins - Full Back (Highlanders/Taieri)

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                                    • NateHill74
                                      NateHill74 last edited by

                                      Players from last season unsigned but playing in Dunedin:
                                      Mika Mafi - No 8 (Southern)
                                      James Arscott - Half Back (Green Island)
                                      Josh Timu - Midfielder/Utility Back (University)
                                      Mitchell Scott - Wing/Full Back (Taieri)
                                      Taylor Haugh - WIng/Full Back (University)

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                                      • Bovidae
                                        Bovidae @NateHill74 last edited by

                                        @NateHill74 Jamie Mackintosh? Assuming it is that JM, I thought he was back playing club rugby in Southland?

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                                        • NateHill74
                                          NateHill74 @Bovidae last edited by NateHill74

                                          @Bovidae Yeah, he's playing club rugby for Kaikorai in Dunedin, and in the Wider Training Group for Otago at the moment

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                                          • NateHill74
                                            NateHill74 last edited by

                                            Possible 23 for this season:

                                            1. Jonah Aoina
                                            2. Liam Coltman
                                            3. Hisa Sasagi
                                            4. Josh Hill
                                            5. Sione Misiloi
                                            6. Not to sure yet
                                            7. Slade McDowall
                                            8. Dylan Nel
                                            9. Kayne Hammington
                                            10. Josh Ioane
                                            11. Jona Nareki
                                            12. Sio Tomkinson
                                            13. Aleki Morris-Lome
                                            14. Vilimoni Koroi
                                            15. Michael Collins (C)
                                            16. Ricky Jackson
                                            17. Jamie Mackintosh
                                            18. Not to sure yet
                                            19. Woody Kirkwood (North Otago last year)
                                            20. Not to sure yet
                                            21. James Arscott
                                            22. Matt Whaanga
                                            23. Freedom Vaha'akolo
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                                            • Kiwiwomble
                                              Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                              i assume Collins prefers fullback but he played a bit in the midfield when fin the otago team and thought he was ok, personally i prefer that and have Koroi at 15...i think hes wasted out wide and neither he nor Nareki are exactly big and i'd like at least one big winger

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                                              • Stargazer
                                                Stargazer last edited by

                                                @NateHill74 Have you seen Kegan Christian-Goss playing club rugby for Dunedin? I wonder how he is developing. He was a good 10/12 for Napier Boys a few years ago. Probably, still a bit early for NPC, if he reaches that level.

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                                                • NateHill74
                                                  NateHill74 @Stargazer last edited by

                                                  @Stargazer I personally haven't seen him from what I remember but he's been on the verges on the team usually with playing in the development team. He's pretty good for Dunedin and of course versatile, playing wing and midfield. He's not a bad player to be fair though

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                                                  • NateHill74
                                                    NateHill74 @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                    @Kiwiwomble Yeah like 2012-15 he played centre a lot especially if Ben Smith was there and Peter Breen etc. I personally like Vili in the action and not on the wing but with players in specific positions I can't see him anywhere else. Collins is great at full back, Josh (3rd best in NZ) at 10, and the midfield of Sio and Morris-Lome is perfect as they played together through schools, club and rep. So the wing is the only other spot for him, unless he's a super sub and have Freedom starting on the wing with Jona

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                                                    • Kiwiwomble
                                                      Kiwiwomble @NateHill74 last edited by

                                                      @NateHill74 do you think collins is better the koroi at 15 though? captain aside id have koroi ahead of him, collins is solid...koroi is electric

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                                                      • NateHill74
                                                        NateHill74 @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                        @Kiwiwomble It's a good debate though, isn't it. As you said, it's either leadership and knowledge at full-back or electrifying speed and agility. Personally, Vili would be better as a super-sub and can bring on impact like how Damian McKenzie did for the AB's against France and England a couple of years ago

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                                                        • Kiwiwomble
                                                          Kiwiwomble @NateHill74 last edited by

                                                          @NateHill74 yeah, i could see that

                                                          i guess thats why i was wondering if collins could move to the midfield, a proper playmaker at 15 and the leadership/experience closer to the action in the midfield

                                                          not a fan of captains in the outside backs...just too far from whats going on

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                                                          • NateHill74
                                                            NateHill74 @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                            @Kiwiwomble That's true kind of the same with Ben Smith at the Highlanders, maybe add co-captains like Southland. Maybe have Liam Coltman, or Slade McDowall as a captain, which also has the backs/forwards leaders too.

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                                                            • Kiwiwomble
                                                              Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                              hoping the highlanders has answered some questions for Otago
                                                              10. Ioane
                                                              11. Nareki
                                                              12. sio
                                                              13. collins
                                                              14.?
                                                              15. Koroi

                                                              That could actually do some damage this year in the championship, bulk of our backline paying/training together during super rugby

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                                                              • Kiwiwomble
                                                                Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                apparently we've resigned Josh Hohneck 🤷🏻♂

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                                                                • Siam
                                                                  Siam @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                  @Kiwiwomble mate, you still got contacts in dunners?

                                                                  Someone has to have the oil on Walden this season

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                                                                  • Siam
                                                                    Siam @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Otago Mitre 10 Cup 2020:

                                                                    apparently we've resigned Josh Hohneck 🤷🏻♂

                                                                    I hate how resign and resign have opposite meanings in describing pro sports people's futures 😄

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                                                                    • Kiwiwomble
                                                                      Kiwiwomble @Siam last edited by Kiwiwomble

                                                                      @Siam said in Otago Mitre 10 Cup 2020:

                                                                      @Kiwiwomble mate, you still got contacts in dunners?

                                                                      Someone has to have the oil on Walden this season

                                                                      I don’t but I think @NateHill74 might

                                                                      But Walden moved to the naki didn’t he?

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                                                                      • Bones
                                                                        Bones @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                        @Kiwiwomble thought he was always 'naki!

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                                                                        • Kiwiwomble
                                                                          Kiwiwomble @Bones last edited by

                                                                          @Bones 40+ games for the razorbacks mate

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                                                                          • Stargazer
                                                                            Stargazer @Bones last edited by

                                                                            @Bones No, he played for Otago from 2013-2017 (according to Wikipedia); he moved there to study at Otago Uni. But he's originally from Taranaki, and decided to return in 2018.

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                                                                            • Bones
                                                                              Bones @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                              @Kiwiwomble said in Otago Mitre 10 Cup 2020:

                                                                              @Bones 40+ games for the razorbacks mate

                                                                              Yeah, confusing Wiki page...

                                                                              Teihorangi Walden - Wikipedia

                                                                              I've only seen him play NPC in the last couple of years so I guess that was my poor assumption.

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                                                                              • Stargazer
                                                                                Stargazer last edited by

                                                                                Article in the ODT about Walden returning to Taranaki:

                                                                                Dec 13, 2017

                                                                                Midfielder Walden to return to Taranaki

                                                                                Midfielder Walden to return to Taranaki

                                                                                Otago has lost one of its most experienced players with midfielder Tei Walden leaving the province for Taranaki. Walden (24) comes from Taranaki...

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                                                                                • Kiwiwomble
                                                                                  Kiwiwomble @Bones last edited by

                                                                                  @Bones said in Otago Mitre 10 Cup 2020:

                                                                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Otago Mitre 10 Cup 2020:

                                                                                  @Bones 40+ games for the razorbacks mate

                                                                                  Yeah, confusing Wiki page...

                                                                                  Teihorangi Walden - Wikipedia

                                                                                  I've only seen him play NPC in the last couple of years so I guess that was my poor assumption.

                                                                                  Wonder if that’s true he’s only got 10 games in the last couple of years for the naki, would have been better staying down south!

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                                                                                  • Stargazer
                                                                                    Stargazer @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                                    @Kiwiwomble That's only 2018. The info hasn't been updated since 12 October 2018.

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