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    Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato

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    • Crucial
      Crucial last edited by Duluth

      Battle of the Bombays. Arthur Stone isn't playing

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      • Nepia
        Nepia last edited by

        Kaino, MJ, Zinny - no team beats a team with that loose froward trio.

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        • Crucial
          Crucial @Nepia last edited by

          @Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

          Kaino, MJ, Zinny - no team beats a team with that loose froward trio.

          Yeah, Saturday game so Jones is back.

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          • Crucial
            Crucial last edited by

            Man on man, 12 and 15 are the only (very debatable) better players for the visitors

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            • mariner4life
              mariner4life @Crucial last edited by

              @Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

              15 are the only (very debatable)

              what? go and have a lie down son

              then come back and have a serious word with yourself.

              jesus...

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              • Kiwiwomble
                Kiwiwomble @Crucial last edited by

                @Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                Man on man, 12 and 15 are the only (very debatable) better players for the visitors

                i think i'd only go so far as "they'd give it a good go"...."better" is a very strong word

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                • Snowy
                  Snowy @Crucial last edited by

                  @Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                  Arthur Stone isn't playing

                  GFY and you lose.

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                  • Crucial
                    Crucial last edited by

                    It’s why I said “very debatable “

                    I thinks there’s a good argument at 12.

                    A good fluffer should be able to come up with an argument at 15

                    Everyone else is clear cut

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                    • mariner4life
                      mariner4life @Crucial last edited by

                      @Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                      A good fluffer should be able to come up with an argument at 15

                      i doubt that.

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                      • dogmeat
                        dogmeat @Crucial last edited by

                        @Crucial Is Junior that much better than Duggan? Or did he get a very comfortable ride behind an awesome Akl pack?

                        Neither what you'd call top notch halfbacks. Still Akl by plenty

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                        • Crucial
                          Crucial @mariner4life last edited by

                          @mariner4life said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                          @Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                          A good fluffer should be able to come up with an argument at 15

                          i doubt that.

                          Scoring strike rate? I suspect DMac wins that one.

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                          • Crucial
                            Crucial @dogmeat last edited by

                            @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                            @Crucial Is Junior that much better than Duggan? Or did he get a very comfortable ride behind an awesome Akl pack?

                            Neither what you'd call top notch halfbacks. Still Akl by plenty

                            Yeah, hadn’t spotted that. Agree.

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                            • Nepia
                              Nepia @dogmeat last edited by

                              @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                              @Crucial Is Junior that much better than Duggan? Or did he get a very comfortable ride behind an awesome Akl pack?

                              Neither what you'd call top notch halfbacks. Still Akl by plenty

                              What happened to David Kirk? Was he in the running for this? RWC winning captain while playing for the 09.

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                              • Crucial
                                Crucial @Nepia last edited by

                                @Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                @Crucial Is Junior that much better than Duggan? Or did he get a very comfortable ride behind an awesome Akl pack?

                                Neither what you'd call top notch halfbacks. Still Akl by plenty

                                What happened to David Kirk? Was he in the running for this? RWC winning captain while playing for the 09.

                                Otago would have first dibs

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                                • Nepia
                                  Nepia @Crucial last edited by

                                  @Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                  @Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                  @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                  @Crucial Is Junior that much better than Duggan? Or did he get a very comfortable ride behind an awesome Akl pack?

                                  Neither what you'd call top notch halfbacks. Still Akl by plenty

                                  What happened to David Kirk? Was he in the running for this? RWC winning captain while playing for the 09.

                                  Otago would have first dibs

                                  Did they select him though?

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                                  • Crucial
                                    Crucial @Nepia last edited by

                                    @Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                    @Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                    @Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                    @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                    @Crucial Is Junior that much better than Duggan? Or did he get a very comfortable ride behind an awesome Akl pack?

                                    Neither what you'd call top notch halfbacks. Still Akl by plenty

                                    What happened to David Kirk? Was he in the running for this? RWC winning captain while playing for the 09.

                                    Otago would have first dibs

                                    Did they select him though?

                                    They went for Kelleher. Can’t remember a strong debate about it

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                                    • Nepia
                                      Nepia @Crucial last edited by

                                      @Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                      @Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                      @Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                      @Nepia said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                      @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                      @Crucial Is Junior that much better than Duggan? Or did he get a very comfortable ride behind an awesome Akl pack?

                                      Neither what you'd call top notch halfbacks. Still Akl by plenty

                                      What happened to David Kirk? Was he in the running for this? RWC winning captain while playing for the 09.

                                      Otago would have first dibs

                                      Did they select him though?

                                      They went for Kelleher. Can’t remember a strong debate about it

                                      Tonu'u and Kellaher over Kirk. I thought we were all crusty old dudes here, apparently I was wrong.

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                                      • taniwharugby
                                        taniwharugby last edited by

                                        No doubt on the result for this one

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                                        • dogmeat
                                          dogmeat @Nepia last edited by

                                          @Nepia IMO Akl have had a number of halfbacks that were better than Tonu'u

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                                          • Nepia
                                            Nepia @dogmeat last edited by

                                            @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                            @Nepia IMO Akl have had a number of halfbacks that were better than Tonu'u

                                            Oh who'd you prefer? Devine? Brett Iti?

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                                            • dogmeat
                                              dogmeat @Nepia last edited by

                                              @Nepia Lin Colling for one. Belinda's uncle. Although he played for Otago first as well. Kirk possibly. Gemmell?

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                                              • Nepia
                                                Nepia @dogmeat last edited by

                                                @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                                @Nepia Lin Colling for one. Belinda's uncle. Although he played for Otago first as well. Kirk possibly. Gemmell?

                                                How much NPC did those guys play?

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                                                • Duluth
                                                  Duluth @dogmeat last edited by

                                                  @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                                  Lin Colling for one. Belinda's uncle. Although he played for Otago first as well. Kirk possibly. Gemmell?

                                                  No one older Kirk would have an impact on a poll of TSFers

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                                                  • dogmeat
                                                    dogmeat last edited by

                                                    Colling was around at the start of the NPC Gemmell first played for Akl as 19 yr old straight out of school but was kept out by Colling. When he retired Gemmel took over but had his career ended by concussion issues

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                                                    • dogmeat
                                                      dogmeat @Duluth last edited by

                                                      @Duluth you'd think so but look at the Manawatu side

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                                                      • Kiwiwomble
                                                        Kiwiwomble last edited by Kiwiwomble

                                                        i think we assumed Kirk would get picked for Auckland and had already settled on Byron before clicking on first team gets dibs rule...and then never readdressed

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                                                        • taniwharugby
                                                          taniwharugby last edited by taniwharugby

                                                          I heard of Colling, but not Gemmell.

                                                          I think Tonu'u fits best with this Auckland team, Devine or Kirk would go well too

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                                                          • Duluth
                                                            Duluth @dogmeat last edited by

                                                            @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                                            @Duluth you'd think so but look at the Manawatu side

                                                            ..and look at every other side. The players skew towards a particular time period. Manawatu is an exception because they did not do well during that time

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                                                            • dogmeat
                                                              dogmeat @taniwharugby last edited by

                                                              @taniwharugby I'm happy for them to have picked Tonu'u

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                                                              • Snowy
                                                                Snowy @Duluth last edited by

                                                                @Duluth said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                                                @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                                                @Duluth you'd think so but look at the Manawatu side

                                                                ..and look at every other side. The players skew towards a particular time period. Manawatu is an exception because they did not do well during that time

                                                                Yep. Good teams beget. Manawatu are are a scatter gun. Great players over many years.

                                                                Crusaders for years as a team and hopefully the Blues now.

                                                                Good players get even better when they play together.

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                                                                • Bovidae
                                                                  Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

                                                                  Shit, Waikato survives the 1st round.

                                                                  I am sure Auckland will win the voting convincingly but the majority of this Waikato team have tasted success at Eden Park. Some of them numerous times. 🙂

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                                                                  • nzzp
                                                                    nzzp @dogmeat last edited by

                                                                    @dogmeat said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                                                    @taniwharugby I'm happy for them to have picked Tonu'u

                                                                    Tonu'u is one of those players who was pretty limited, but did what he did really well. Strong passer is all you need with that pack and that backline.

                                                                    Tuitupou was a reminder to me that size is not the same as physicality. What a player.

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                                                                    • booboo
                                                                      booboo @Crucial last edited by

                                                                      @Crucial said in Ultimate NPC: Round 2 Auckland v Waikato:

                                                                      Man on man, 12 and 15 are the only (very debatable) better players for the visitors

                                                                      I'm a huge DMac fanboi but that is a terrible call.

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                                                                      • KiwiMurph
                                                                        KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                                        Would have been fun to watch that Waikato midfield with both players in their prime.

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