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    @ARHS I assume they are eligible, but thinking about Jarrad Hoeata in the squad made me 🤮 and I don't think we need the others, maybe Williams and Garland excepted, although Lowe can play at centre. As per usual, I do expect a surprise or two.

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    @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    @ARHS I assume they are eligible, but thinking about Jarrad Hoeata in the squad made me 🤮 and I don't think we need the others, maybe Williams and Garland excepted, although Lowe can play at centre. As per usual, I do expect a surprise or two.

    He was playing in the Match Fit team on three. In fact seeing him in that team and Filipo Levi in the other one made me hope there would be another round of this....

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    @ARHS said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    Rather thin ranks in some positions. Are Rivez Reihana, the Hoeata brothers, Tamaiti Williams and Matt Garland others that are eligible??

    Skipwith-Garland is from BOP. Just saying. 🙂

    Ware and Webber could also be in the mix.

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    Not sure what the criteria is to be selected in the Island team, but if it's just whoever has Island heritage, then here's who could be in the team.

    Loosehead: Daniel Lienert-Brown, Jarred Adams, Ezekiel Lindenmuth, James Lay, Tevita Mafileo, Xavier Numia, Rob Cobb

    Hooker: Andrew Makalio, Luteru Tolai, Samisoni Takei'aho

    Tighthead: Angus Ta'avao, Sione Mafileo, Siate Tokolahi, Michael Alaalatoa, Alex Fidow, Joe Apikatoa, Josh Iosefa-Scott

    Lock: Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, Kane Leaupepe, Samipeni Finau, Sam Slade

    6/8: Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Pita Sowakula, Teariki Ben-Nicholas, Vaea Fifita, Nasi Manu, Viliame Taulani

    Openside: Sione Havili, Alamanda Motuga, Murphy Taramai

    Halfbacks: Folau Fakatava, Jonathan Taumateine, Dwayne Polataivao, Lisati Milo-Harris

    First Five: Stephen Perofeta, Luteru Laulala, Orbyn Leger

    Midfield: Tumua Manu, Tanielu Telea, Vince Aso, Fetuli Paea, Ray Nu'u, Stacy Ili, Neria Fomai, Danny Toala, Sio Tomkinson

    Wing: Salesi Rayasi, AJ Lam, Leicester Fainga'anuku, Mark Telea, Jacob Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens, Emoni Narawa, Lolagi Visinia, Julian Savea, Pepesana Patafilo, Kirisi Kuridrani

    Fullback: David Havili, Etene Nanai-Seturo, Chase Tiatia

    Players who have Maori/Island heritage: Josh Ioane, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Liam Messam, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Ere Enari, Jonah Lowe, Shaun Stevenson, Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Leni Apisai(?), Nehe Milner-Skudder.

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    @Machpants said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    A very interesting question is who will be in the Pacifika squad, they've all gotta be here in in NZ already. It will be interesting how many are kiwis of heritage Vs born in the other Pacific Islands

    Yeah, what is the selection criteria for the PI team I wonder? I guess there will be some players with dual heritage who might have to choose.

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    @Dice The potential Pasifika team looks stronger. Will/can they select players who have already been capped for the ABs? Time will tell.

    I'm waiting to see the squads before deciding to go or not.

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    @Bovidae said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    @ARHS said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    Rather thin ranks in some positions. Are Rivez Reihana, the Hoeata brothers, Tamaiti Williams and Matt Garland others that are eligible??

    Skipwith-Garland is from BOP. Just saying. 🙂

    Ware and Webber could also be in the mix.

    No, they won't. They'll be playing at the Ignite 7s tournament (same weekend).

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    @Nepia said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    @Machpants said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    A very interesting question is who will be in the Pacifika squad, they've all gotta be here in in NZ already. It will be interesting how many are kiwis of heritage Vs born in the other Pacific Islands

    Yeah, what is the selection criteria for the PI team I wonder? I guess there will be some players with dual heritage who might have to choose.

    They literally said in the media release:

    The Moana Pasifika group has secured players of Pasifika heritage, made up of current and former international players, and a number of players eligible for international Pasifika teams. The squad will be announced later this month.

    I don't think they'll pick players with All Black caps like Julian Savea, Fifita and Ta'avao. Recent/current Samoa, Fiji and Tonga players like Michael Alaalatoa and Kane Le'aupepe (if fit) are near certainties, I think.

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    @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    @Nepia said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    @Machpants said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    A very interesting question is who will be in the Pacifika squad, they've all gotta be here in in NZ already. It will be interesting how many are kiwis of heritage Vs born in the other Pacific Islands

    Yeah, what is the selection criteria for the PI team I wonder? I guess there will be some players with dual heritage who might have to choose.

    They literally said in the media release:

    The Moana Pasifika group has secured players of Pasifika heritage, made up of current and former international players, and a number of players eligible for international Pasifika teams. The squad will be announced later this month.

    I don't think they'll pick players with All Black caps like Julian Savea.

    What, you expect us to read the media releases now? 😉

    I guess some guys with mixed heritage who are still 'eligible' for Pasifika teams could get selected.

    With the coaching appointment of Mauger we know that Sio Sio Tomkinson will start for the Pasifika team - assuming he's still not suspended.

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    @Nepia It was also in my post from last night. Obviously, I expect you to read that. 😂

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    Rivez Reihana won't be in the squad. From instagram:

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    I wasn't expecting him to with all the other options.

    So he is in a moon boot. Surgery?

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    @Bovidae It's from instagram stories. There was no comment, so I don't know about surgery.

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    If they’re looking for a young lock on the rise, there’s a kid playing for Ta$man, Isaac Ross.

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    @Dice said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    Not sure what the criteria is to be selected in the Island team, but if it's just whoever has Island heritage, then here's who could be in the team.

    Loosehead: Daniel Lienert-Brown, Jarred Adams, Ezekiel Lindenmuth, James Lay, Tevita Mafileo, Xavier Numia, Rob Cobb

    Hooker: Andrew Makalio, Luteru Tolai, Samisoni Takei'aho

    Tighthead: Angus Ta'avao, Sione Mafileo, Siate Tokolahi, Michael Alaalatoa, Alex Fidow, Joe Apikatoa, Josh Iosefa-Scott

    Lock: Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, Kane Leaupepe, Samipeni Finau, Sam Slade

    6/8: Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Pita Sowakula, Teariki Ben-Nicholas, Vaea Fifita, Nasi Manu, Viliame Taulani

    Openside: Sione Havili, Alamanda Motuga, Murphy Taramai

    Halfbacks: Folau Fakatava, Jonathan Taumateine, Dwayne Polataivao, Lisati Milo-Harris

    First Five: Stephen Perofeta, Luteru Laulala, Orbyn Leger

    Midfield: Tumua Manu, Tanielu Telea, Vince Aso, Fetuli Paea, Ray Nu'u, Stacy Ili, Neria Fomai, Danny Toala, Sio Tomkinson

    Wing: Salesi Rayasi, AJ Lam, Leicester Fainga'anuku, Mark Telea, Jacob Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens, Emoni Narawa, Lolagi Visinia, Julian Savea, Pepesana Patafilo, Kirisi Kuridrani

    Fullback: David Havili, Etene Nanai-Seturo, Chase Tiatia

    Players who have Maori/Island heritage: Josh Ioane, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Liam Messam, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Ere Enari, Jonah Lowe, Shaun Stevenson, Te Ahiwaru Cirikidaveta, Leni Apisai(?), Nehe Milner-Skudder.

    Du'plessis Kirifi?

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    @Stargazer said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    @Nepia said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    @Machpants said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    A very interesting question is who will be in the Pacifika squad, they've all gotta be here in in NZ already. It will be interesting how many are kiwis of heritage Vs born in the other Pacific Islands

    Yeah, what is the selection criteria for the PI team I wonder? I guess there will be some players with dual heritage who might have to choose.

    They literally said in the media release:

    The Moana Pasifika group has secured players of Pasifika heritage, made up of current and former international players, and a number of players eligible for international Pasifika teams. The squad will be announced later this month.

    I don't think they'll pick players with All Black caps like Julian Savea, Fifita and Ta'avao. Recent/current Samoa, Fiji and Tonga players like Michael Alaalatoa and Kane Le'aupepe (if fit) are near certainties, I think.

    There is a comma after former international players, before and a number of player eligible that says to me former ABs etc are available.

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    @Machpants at the end of the day, they want the strongest 2 teams they can field, if there are a few ex-ABs with Island heritage over some random, gotta be good!

    Given they are only able to pick form people in NZ too

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    @Dice

    Teariki Ben-Nicholas is eligible for the Maori ABs, so I'd expect to see him there. Hopefully ahead of either Douglas or Prinsep.

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    @bobily2 said in 2020 Māori All Blacks:

    @Dice

    Teariki Ben-Nicholas is eligible for the Maori ABs, so I'd expect to see him there. Hopefully ahead of either Douglas or Prinsep.

    My flatmate whose is from Rarotonga insists TBN is also a Cook Islander. Obviously I will have to check with him out whether there might be any Maori ancestry in TBNs family as well.

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    Team naming now planned for tomorrow night on the Breakdown (8.30pm).

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