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    Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract

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      mikey07 last edited by

      F.Smith
      L.McClutchie
      And in my eyes James Tofa

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      • Yeetyaah
        Yeetyaah last edited by Yeetyaah

        Fletcher Smith. Better than a lot of the first fives that have been named in squads.

        Tyrone Thompson. Looks a great prospect and would be a good dev addition.

        Johnny Cooper (at a push). Good prospect, but his first year in M10 and he barely got to start.

        Josh McKay. Gets a lot of stick on here and rightly so sometimes. His M10 cup was great and was dangerous in open play.

        Tony Lamborn. Carries like a beast and brings some mongrel.

        McClutchie. Again, better than a lot of the first fives named in teams. We're probably gonna lose him forever.

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        • Tim
          Tim last edited by Tim

          Choat
          Tei Walden

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          • Bovidae
            Bovidae last edited by

            Parsons
            Cridge

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            • Tim
              Tim last edited by

              Ethan Roots
              North Harbour front row

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              • Bovidae
                Bovidae @Tim last edited by

                @Tim Mafileo is in the Chiefs.

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                • macmanus
                  macmanus last edited by

                  Will Tucker

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                  • Bovidae
                    Bovidae last edited by

                    It will be interesting to see which of these players are brought into the WTGs.

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                    • macmanus
                      macmanus last edited by

                      Geoff Cridge

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                      • Tim
                        Tim last edited by

                        Otago wing Freedom Vahaakolo is another player who many would consider unlucky not to earn a full contract. I've heard from a few Highlanders fans this morning who are staggered Sam Gilbert and Scott Gregory are preferred to someone like him.
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                          bobily2 last edited by bobily2

                          Eklund, Lindenmuth, Coxon

                          You could make a very handy team of rejects this year.

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                          • Stargazer
                            Stargazer last edited by Stargazer

                            From a Magpies perspective, I'm mostly pissed off by McClutchie not getting a contract. Hopefully, he'll get a development contract somewhere and/or ends up in a WTG.

                            I think Kianu Kereru-Symes could be a good addition to a squad, too.

                            Geoff Cridge and Tom Parsons are unlucky, too.

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                            • Yeetyaah
                              Yeetyaah last edited by Yeetyaah

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                              Okay so Kane Hames replied to my comment on Facebook (doxxing myself lmao). Fletcher Smith off to Australia?

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                                Stargazer @Yeetyaah last edited by

                                @Yeetyaah Looks like the way to go for the players that have been/keep on being snubbed. Hopefully, not lost to NZ rugby for good.

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                                • taniwharugby
                                  taniwharugby @Tim last edited by taniwharugby

                                  @Tim after the season he has had, Gregory lucky he signed a multi year contract last year, plus is signed as a mid fielder not an OB.

                                  Hopefully the Highlanders coaches watched our games to realise he ain't a FB, cos ours haven't.

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                                    nzzp @bobily2 last edited by

                                    @bobily2 said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

                                    Eklund, Lindenmuth, Coxon

                                    You could make a very handy team of rejects this year.

                                    you certainly could.

                                    With my optimistic hat on, I think the lack of player drain will start to tell - NZ rugby will grow in strength, quality and depth again. All we need are some good coaches to be world beaters again 🙂

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                                      ARHS last edited by ARHS

                                      I am staggered at the blues signings especially outside backs. Why would Kneepkens move up there to join a queue a mile long when he would likely start for his home franchise. And how can Eklund rate behind the 3 chosen. But Leon Mcdonald talked about 10 extra players signed up as cover for Abs. If so then that might be the reason for a lolly scramble of signings and crazy omissions. I think NZRU needs to take a good long look at what is happening if it has lead to this.
                                      I am sad if Fletcher Smith has been forced to look overseas for a contract. He just might be a star signing with his skillset. Besides him I didn't see Kurt Eklund Tom Parsons Samepeni Finau Tamati Tua Josh McKay Aaron Carroll Mitch Jacobsen or Rameka Poihipi. All should be compelling choices as full squad members in my view.

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                                      • Bovidae
                                        Bovidae last edited by Bovidae

                                        On Stuff, Robert van Royen is indicating that Fletcher Smith will be signing for a Japanese club.

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                                        • Daffy Jaffy
                                          Daffy Jaffy @ARHS last edited by Daffy Jaffy

                                          @ARHS Apparently Ekland is covering at the Blues at the start of the new season for an injured Vikena then has a full 2 year contract with them from 2022. Maybe Parsons is retiring then as he is now 34.

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                                            nzzp @Daffy Jaffy last edited by

                                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

                                            @ARHS Apparently Ekland is covering at the Blues at the start of the new season for an injured Vikena then has a full 2 year contract with them from 2022. Maybe Parsons is retiring then as he is now 34.

                                            you'd think so.

                                            Amazing how Parsons is great as a squad hooker. Great team man, gives it 100%, sets standards. Not quite there on the field, but as a no 2 or 3 he's just fine.

                                            Well done to the coaches for actually bolstering an area of weakness

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                                            • Machpants
                                              Machpants @bobily2 last edited by

                                              @bobily2 said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

                                              Eklund, Lindenmuth, Coxon

                                              You could make a very handy team of rejects this year.

                                              Hopefully for them they have pasifika heritage!

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                                                trodthesod last edited by

                                                Couldn’t agree more.James Parsons would be the ultimate squad man,a wise head on old shoulders,and mentor to those coming through.The Blues are now attracting players to come to the region,and no one can deny them their change in fortune.Kurt Eklund will no doubt be seen again this year as well.

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                                                • Magpie_in_aus
                                                  Magpie_in_aus @Stargazer last edited by

                                                  @Stargazer said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

                                                  Geoff Cridge and Tom Parsons are unlucky, too.

                                                  I'm more surprised the Bryn got one at the lenders over them

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                                                    Stargazer @Magpie_in_aus last edited by

                                                    @Magpie_in_aus Yeah, but from what I read in the media, they have mostly signed Bryn Evans for his experience (mentoring role).

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                                                      ARHS @Bovidae last edited by

                                                      @Bovidae That is an awful situation!!

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                                                        ARHS @Daffy Jaffy last edited by ARHS

                                                        @Daffy-Jaffy Pleased to hear this. But, I really do wonder about the commonsense in that. Niuia unproven after a long term injury and Vikena the same. Eklund is right in that 'next best' group outside the AB's in my eyes. Of the 4 hookers who is the more likely to be first choice by end of 2021? (Tolai?.......)

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                                                          Smudge @Yeetyaah last edited by

                                                          @Yeetyaah said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

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                                                          Okay so Kane Hames replied to my comment on Facebook (doxxing myself lmao). Fletcher Smith off to Australia?

                                                          With a name like that, you could have been a stalwart of English club rugby!

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                                                          • Kiwiwomble
                                                            Kiwiwomble @Tim last edited by

                                                            @Tim said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

                                                            Otago wing Freedom Vahaakolo is another player who many would consider unlucky not to earn a full contract. I've heard from a few Highlanders fans this morning who are staggered Sam Gilbert and Scott Gregory are preferred to someone like him.
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                                                            I think both Gregory and Gilbert had existing contracts so its more a case of Aliamalo v Vahaakolo for an outside back spot (even though its more 15 v 14)...and it becomes a bit more clear, disappointed though

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                                                            • Machpants
                                                              Machpants @Smudge last edited by

                                                              @Smudge said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

                                                              @Yeetyaah said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

                                                              IMG_20201203_080942.jpg

                                                              Okay so Kane Hames replied to my comment on Facebook (doxxing myself lmao). Fletcher Smith off to Australia?

                                                              With a name like that, you could have been a stalwart of English club rugby!

                                                              Three surnames for the price of one!

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                                                              • KiwiMurph
                                                                KiwiMurph @ARHS last edited by

                                                                @ARHS said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

                                                                @Daffy-Jaffy Pleased to hear this. But, I really do wonder about the commonsense in that. Niuia unproven after a long term injury and Vikena the same. Eklund is right in that 'next best' group outside the AB's in my eyes. Of the 4 hookers who is the more likely to be first choice by end of 2021? (Tolai?.......)

                                                                It's simply contracting.

                                                                Parsons and Niuia were already on multi year contracts that run through next season.

                                                                Eklund was on a 1 year deal last season.

                                                                If they signed Eklund they risk losing Vikena and visa versa. Through injury they've managed to keep both.

                                                                Tolai wasn't contracted last year so is the unlucky one this year.

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                                                                  ARHS last edited by

                                                                  To start the ball rolling here is my reserve squad of 23 - available at some stage for WTG's (Tua & Allan injured), and NZ-eligible (no Lambourn or Ili), and not in Sevens squad:

                                                                  F Smith, McKay, Vaha'akolo, Walden, Poihipi, McClutchie, Milo-Harris, Roots, Finau, Choat, Cridge, Parsons, Coxon, Iosefa-Scott, Eklund Res: Tofa, Leger, Ratima, Jacobson, Carroll, Lindenmuth, McIlroy, Tolai

                                                                  Who else do you see as the leading contenders?

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                                                                    Stargazer @ARHS last edited by Stargazer

                                                                    @ARHS This would be a great post for the more general Super Rugby 2021 thread or the "Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract" thread! 🙂

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                                                                      Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                      I had a sneaky suspision we might have brought in Nasi Manu with an eye to experience and leadership

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                                                                        for the record

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                                                                          Machpants last edited by

                                                                          Man the 1st 5 situation is pretty dire

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                                                                            KiwiMurph @Kiwiwomble last edited by

                                                                            @Kiwiwomble Himeno is a bloody big halfback......

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                                                                              ARHS @KiwiMurph last edited by

                                                                              @KiwiMurph With the addition of Squire he may need to consider a change of position to get a start now. Can he do a good Tanaka impersonation?

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                                                                              • Kiwiwomble
                                                                                Kiwiwomble @ARHS last edited by

                                                                                @ARHS said in Unlucky Players not to get a SR Contract:

                                                                                @KiwiMurph With the addition of Squire he may need to consider a change of position to get a start now. Can he do a good Tanaka impersonation?

                                                                                he'd kill someone if he tried this

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                                                                                • mofitzy_
                                                                                  mofitzy_ last edited by mofitzy_

                                                                                  I suppose it's worth remembering Vaa'i was an injury replacement, we may still see some of these players this season.

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                                                                                    family man last edited by

                                                                                    Josh timu I think is very unlucky

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