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    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    World Cup jersey. No Altrad!

    WR regulations that you can't have any sponsors except the jersey manufacturer. You can bet all their training gear will be covered in Altrad and Ineos logos.

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    @Bovidae Ah, that explains it!

    I like that fern pattern on the jersey. Nice and simple.

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    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Bovidae Ah, that explains it!

    I like that fern pattern on the jersey. Nice and simple.

    That's why the only ABs jersey I buy are RWC ones 🙂

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    @Machpants said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Bovidae Ah, that explains it!

    I like that fern pattern on the jersey. Nice and simple.

    That's why the only ABs jersey I buy are RWC ones 🙂

    Yeah, no advertising on them

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    @canefan said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Machpants said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Bovidae Ah, that explains it!

    I like that fern pattern on the jersey. Nice and simple.

    That's why the only ABs jersey I buy are RWC ones 🙂

    Yeah, no advertising on them

    Still some fucking Hermann company rather than CCC, sadly

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    @Machpants said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @canefan said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Machpants said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Bovidae Ah, that explains it!

    I like that fern pattern on the jersey. Nice and simple.

    That's why the only ABs jersey I buy are RWC ones 🙂

    Yeah, no advertising on them

    Still some fucking Hermann company rather than CCC, sadly

    Who cares anymore? CCC isn't NZ, and hasn't been for years

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    What's more damning is they haven't made a decent ABs shirt since before 2015. I have a 2019 RWC shirt (aside from the obvious connotations it is shit), a 2015 (not a great shirt, it's ok), and a 2011 RWC shirt which is brilliant. White collar, proper embroidered silver fern, a classic

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    Bad fit, and didn't even have a proper collar

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    Retro feel, badges are all pressed on so feels a little cheap

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    I like this one

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    3 pm tomorrow.

    https://www.allblacks.com/news/live-stream-black-ferns-rugby-world-cup-squad-naming/

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    @Bovidae After this weekend of sevens, I'm not convinced they should include any sevens players. Hirini may be an exception, but I'm not sure it's a good idea.

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    @Stargazer said in 2022 Black Ferns:

    @Bovidae After this weekend of sevens, I'm not convinced they should include any sevens players. Hirini may be an exception, but I'm not sure it's a good idea.

    Not even Woodman? Fluhler?

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    The selection of the props and loose forwards will be most important if the BFs want to compete with England and France at the pointy end of the RWC. Hopefully Simon is fit, and Smith selects the younger and more mobile props.

    There are plenty of exciting backs available. @Crucial Those are the only BF7s backs I would be interested in.

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    Plenty of the BF7s players in the squad.

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    Black Ferns squad for Rugby World Cup (Te kapa Mamaku ki te Ipu Whutupōro ā-Ao)
    Hookers (Kaitīkape): Luka Connor, Natalie Delamere, Georgia Ponsonby
    Props (Pou): Tanya Kalounivale, Phillipa Love, Krystal Murray, Amy Rule, Awhina Tangen-Wainohu, Santo Taumata
    Locks (Kaiwhītiki): Chelsea Bremner, Joanah Ngan-Woo, Maiakawanakaulani Roos
    Loose forwards (Pou o mua): Alana Bremner, Sarah Hirini, Charmaine McMenamin, Liana Mikaele-Tu’u, Kendra Reynolds, Kennedy Simon
    Halfbacks (Kairau): Ariana Bayler, Kendra Cocksedge, Arihiana Marino-Tauhinu
    First five-eighths (Topatahi): Ruahei Demant, Hazel Tubic
    Midfielders (Kaunuku): Logo I Pulotu Lemapu Atai’i (Sylvia) Brunt, Amy du Plessis, Theresa Fitzpatrick
    Outside backs (Pou o muri): Stacey Fluhler, Renee Holmes, Ayesha Leti-I’iga, Ruby Tui, Renee Wickliffe, Portia Woodman

    Unavailable due to injury (Tē wātea, nā te wharanga: Grace Brooker, Kaipo Oslen-Baker, Aleisha Pearl-Nelson.

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    I was wondering where Olsen-Baker was, but she is injured.

    Semple is probably the biggest omission. Smith has gone for youth in the midfield.

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    A bit more info, and to put it into persepective: Loose forward and English Captain Sarah Hunter as almost as many caps as our entire Forwards Squad.

    Black Ferns squad
    (Age, Super Rugby team, province and test caps)

    Hookers

    Luka Connor (26, Bay of Plenty, Chiefs, 😎
    Natalie Delamere (25, Bay of Plenty, Matatū, 2)
    Georgia Ponsonby (22, Canterbury, Matatū, 6)

    Props

    Tanya Kalounivale (23, Waikato, Chiefs, 4)
    Phillipa Love (32, Canterbury, Matatū, 19)
    Krystal Murray (29, Northland, Blues, 4)
    Amy Rule (22, Canterbury, Matatū, 6)
    Awhina Tangen-Wainohu (24, Waikato, Chiefs, 1)
    Santo Taumata (19, Bay of Plenty, Chiefs, 1)

    Locks

    Chelsea Bremner (27, Canterbury, Matatū, 5)
    Joanah Ngan-Woo (26, Wellington, Hurricanes, 10)
    Maiakawanakaulani Roos (21, Auckland, Blues, 7)

    Loose Forwards

    Alana Bremner (25, Canterbury, Matatū, 😎
    Sarah Hirini (29, Manawatū, Hurricanes, 10)
    Charmaine McMenamin (32, Auckland, Blues, 27)
    Liana Mikaele-Tu'u (20, Auckland, Blues, 6)
    Kendra Reynolds (29, Bay of Plenty, Matatū, 5)
    Kennedy Simon (25, Waikato, Chiefs, 10)

    Halfbacks

    Ariana Bayler (25, Waikato, Chiefs, 5)
    Kendra Cocksedge (34, Canterbury, Matatū, 61)
    Arihiana Marino-Tauhinu (30, Counties Manukau, Chiefs, 9)

    First Five-Eighths

    Ruahei Demant (27, Auckland, Blues, 20)
    Hazel Tubic (31, Counties Manukau, Chiefs, 16)

    Midfielders

    Logo I Pulotu Lemapu Atai'i (Sylvia) Brunt (18, Auckland, 4)
    Amy du Plessis (23, Canterbury, Matatū, 3)
    Theresa Fitzpatrick (27, Auckland, Blues, 12)

    Outside Backs

    Stacey Fluhler (26, Waikato, Chiefs, 20)
    Renee Holmes (22, Waikato, Matatū, 4)
    Ayesha Leti-I'iga (23, Wellington, Hurricanes, 17)
    Ruby Tui (30, Counties Manukau, Chiefs, 4)
    Renee Wickliffe (35, Bay of Plenty, Chiefs, 44)
    Portia Woodman (31, Northland, Chiefs, 18)

    Unavailable due to injury: Grace Brooker, Kaipo Olsen-Baker, Aleisha Pearl Nelson

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    Squad as expected, thought they might go with Lafaele over Wickliffe to have some further cover at lock but Wickliffe give lots of utility value especially for easy pool games.
    Gutted for Olsen-Baker, she would have started at 8. Semple the biggest omission but also not surprising at all, hopefully her SkySport contract doesn't stop her working with SparkSport at the tournament.

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    @trooa Semple would have offered something different in the midfield, as she can be direct and get you over the advantage line. The players selected are more runners and steppers, which might not be as effective against England or France with slower ball. We'll see.

    The interest now will be which of the sevens players force their way into the team to play Aust in the opener.

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    @Bovidae Brunt is a similar physical ball runner in the midfield? Far less experienced but probably more explosive which might have got her over the line with the tactics Smith is implementing.
    Fitzpatrick is the only definite starter for me, rest are fighting for bench spots without injuries.
    Italy beat France 26-19 on the weekend so not just England & France we have to worry about.

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    With the BFs not having played England and France since the new coaching set-up was brought in, it's hard to know how good this squad is. That's also due to all the changes that were made in the line-up in all the games they've played this year. I hardly know some of the players, because they're so new. Twelve players with 5 caps or less. If I had to guess, I think they can beat France on a good day. England? Who knows. They're definitely the team to beat.

    Due to so many FPC games overlapping with NPC games, I haven't seen far enough FPC games, so can't really say who's lucky to be there or who's unlucky not to be named.

    I rate Chelsea Semple, so it's disappointing she's not there. I'm not a Ruawei Demant fan (at 10) and would have loved to see Victoria Subritzky-Nafatali in the squad. It's also a pity Grace Brooker has been injured all year. Would have added so much more than a player like Renee Wickliffe, who's well past her best.

    Wishing the team lots of luck; I can't wait for the World Cup to begin. It's a pity all games are played up north, which will make it impossible for me to attend any games, but I will be glued to my screen, even with Spark Sport screening it.

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