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    • canefan
      canefan last edited by Duluth

      Serena Williams  /  Aug 9, 2022  /  tags

      Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

      Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

      “It’s the hardest thing.”

      I was going to post it in the GS thread. But i think she deserves her own thread. Serena Williams is arguably the greatest female player of all time, one part of the greatest sister act in sports history. She should have got her 30th GS title and had plenty of chances, but her legacy as a tennis player is secure

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      • dogmeat
        dogmeat @canefan last edited by

        @canefan Margaret Court will be happy but for me Serena is the greatest woman tennis player of all time.

        It took me until the last few years to warm to her (helped by Courts vitriol if I'm honest) I've always preferred finesses over raw power and in her prime it just seemed wrong. Serena was playing a different game. But as she battled father Time I reluctantly admitted she did actually have flair and subtlety and wasn't just a bully.

        Never gave less than 110% Hope she enjoys the rest of her life without tennis

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        • booboo
          booboo last edited by

          Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.

          Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.

          Awesome career and a true tennis great.

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            Chiefy07 last edited by

            First time I can ever remember anyone linking to a Vogue article on here...

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            • Duluth
              Duluth @Chiefy07 last edited by

              @Chiefy07 said in Serena Goooone:

              First time I can ever remember anyone linking to a Vogue article on here...

              Surprisingly we’ve had people post links from Teen Vogue before

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              • Machpants
                Machpants @canefan last edited by

                Serena Williams  /  Aug 9, 2022  /  tags

                Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                “It’s the hardest thing.”

                And I'm spent

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                • MiketheSnow
                  MiketheSnow @Machpants last edited by

                  @Machpants said in Serena Goooone:

                  Serena Williams  /  Aug 9, 2022  /  tags

                  Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                  Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                  “It’s the hardest thing.”

                  And I'm spent

                  She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing

                  Fuck off

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                  • Machpants
                    Machpants @MiketheSnow last edited by Machpants

                    @MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:

                    @Machpants said in Serena Goooone:

                    Serena Williams  /  Aug 9, 2022  /  tags

                    Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                    Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                    “It’s the hardest thing.”

                    And I'm spent

                    She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing

                    Fuck off

                    I'm just looking at the pictures, I have no interest in the game 'windscreen wipers'

                    (Wizard of Id)

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                    • Bones
                      Bones @Machpants last edited by

                      @Machpants I had to have a giggle at her...ahhh..."helper"?

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                      • Bovidae
                        Bovidae @booboo last edited by

                        @booboo said in Serena Goooone:

                        Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.

                        Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.

                        Yeah, that's my view as well. No doubting her ability but I was never a fan. I preferred watching Graf in her prime. Oh, and especially Sabatini. 🙂

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                        • booboo
                          booboo @Bovidae last edited by

                          @Bovidae said in Serena Goooone:

                          @booboo said in Serena Goooone:

                          Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.

                          Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.

                          Yeah, that's my view as well. No doubting her ability but I was never a fan. I preferred watching Graf in her prime. Oh, and especially Sabatini. 🙂

                          Anna Kounikova and Maria Sharapova were very good tennis players

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                          • Machpants
                            Machpants @booboo last edited by

                            @booboo said in Serena Goooone:

                            @Bovidae said in Serena Goooone:

                            @booboo said in Serena Goooone:

                            Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.

                            Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.

                            Yeah, that's my view as well. No doubting her ability but I was never a fan. I preferred watching Graf in her prime. Oh, and especially Sabatini. 🙂

                            Anna Kounikova and Maria Sharapova were very good tennis players

                            Nae tits

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                              stodders @MiketheSnow last edited by

                              @MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:

                              @Machpants said in Serena Goooone:

                              Serena Williams  /  Aug 9, 2022  /  tags

                              Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                              Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                              “It’s the hardest thing.”

                              And I'm spent

                              She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing

                              Fuck off

                              As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?

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                              • MiketheSnow
                                MiketheSnow @stodders last edited by MiketheSnow

                                @stodders said in Serena Goooone:

                                @MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:

                                @Machpants said in Serena Goooone:

                                Serena Williams  /  Aug 9, 2022  /  tags

                                Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                                Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                                “It’s the hardest thing.”

                                And I'm spent

                                She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing

                                Fuck off

                                As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?

                                Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies

                                Nah

                                She's got enough money to have Mary Poppins as her nanny ffs

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                                  stodders @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                  @MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:

                                  @stodders said in Serena Goooone:

                                  @MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:

                                  @Machpants said in Serena Goooone:

                                  Serena Williams  /  Aug 9, 2022  /  tags

                                  Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                                  Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                                  “It’s the hardest thing.”

                                  And I'm spent

                                  She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing

                                  Fuck off

                                  As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?

                                  Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies

                                  Nah

                                  You've got enough money to have Mary Poppins as your nanny

                                  She can have a chat with her husband, no? Get him to take the slack? She chose to have a child I believe. It wasn't forced on her. She could have just played tennis. Sometimes you have choices to make in life.

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                                  • Bones
                                    Bones @MiketheSnow last edited by

                                    @MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:

                                    Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies

                                    These rules are discriminatory though eh. She should write a strongly worded letter asking them to change that one.

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                                    • Stargazer
                                      Stargazer @stodders last edited by

                                      @stodders said in Serena Goooone:

                                      @MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:

                                      @stodders said in Serena Goooone:

                                      @MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:

                                      @Machpants said in Serena Goooone:

                                      Serena Williams  /  Aug 9, 2022  /  tags

                                      Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                                      Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                                      “It’s the hardest thing.”

                                      And I'm spent

                                      She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing

                                      Fuck off

                                      As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?

                                      Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies

                                      Nah

                                      You've got enough money to have Mary Poppins as your nanny

                                      She can have a chat with her husband, no? Get him to take the slack? She chose to have a child I believe. It wasn't forced on her. She could have just played tennis. Sometimes you have choices to make in life.

                                      No, but women have such a thing as a biological clock and postponing pregnancy beyond the age of 35 years has its risks. Agree about the husband and nanny comments.

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                                        stodders @Stargazer last edited by

                                        @Stargazer said in Serena Goooone:

                                        @stodders said in Serena Goooone:

                                        @MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:

                                        @stodders said in Serena Goooone:

                                        @MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:

                                        @Machpants said in Serena Goooone:

                                        Serena Williams  /  Aug 9, 2022  /  tags

                                        Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                                        Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                                        “It’s the hardest thing.”

                                        And I'm spent

                                        She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing

                                        Fuck off

                                        As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?

                                        Men are allowed to compete for longer because they don't have to change nappies

                                        Nah

                                        You've got enough money to have Mary Poppins as your nanny

                                        She can have a chat with her husband, no? Get him to take the slack? She chose to have a child I believe. It wasn't forced on her. She could have just played tennis. Sometimes you have choices to make in life.

                                        No, but women have such a thing as a biological clock and postponing pregnancy beyond the age of 35 years has its risks. Agree about the husband and nanny comments.

                                        It is true, but it is still a choice for most women in the western world to have children. Serena would have decided to keep the baby when she found out she was pregnant. If she wanted to be close to the baby once born, she had the means to do that if that was more important to her than playing tennis.

                                        Her comments about not being able to play longer just smacks of excuse making because she is unable to deal with her decline. She has the means to have a team of nannies on hand 24/7 to allow her to focus 100% on her tennis and fitness. If she is choosing not to focus, then that is a tell that she has other priorities now. No shame in that.

                                        Unfortunately, being a hands on parent and being an elite sports person is very difficult, especially if you are ageing as well. If Serena is not coping with this, she might want to look closer to home rather than blaming the patriarchy ☺️

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                                        • canefan
                                          canefan @booboo last edited by

                                          @booboo said in Serena Goooone:

                                          @Bovidae said in Serena Goooone:

                                          @booboo said in Serena Goooone:

                                          Frankly found her unlikeable, exemplified by the US Open final v Osaka.

                                          Horrible persona in my judgement. But one hell of a tennis player.

                                          Yeah, that's my view as well. No doubting her ability but I was never a fan. I preferred watching Graf in her prime. Oh, and especially Sabatini. 🙂

                                          Anna Kounikova and Maria Sharapova were very good tennis players

                                          Screenshot_20220810-221924_Chrome.jpg

                                          Anna Anna Anna

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                                          • Frank
                                            Frank last edited by Frank

                                            Good career Serena. Definitely the greatest woman player of all time and ranking a respectable 855(my estimate) when included with the men.

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                                            • booboo
                                              booboo last edited by

                                              Just a wee thought further to my earlier comment...

                                              I can't think of any tennis player less likeable. And that includes Sharapova and Kyrgios.

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                                              • Nepia
                                                Nepia last edited by

                                                FFS there's some mountains out of molehills being made here. She's just stating facts. She's not blaming men for anything. For a women to have a child it takes them out of the sport for a time and it's likely the changes to the body will impact sports performance. Also it's a couple of lines in a long article that I only read because of posters on rugby forums complaining about it. The first part of the article was quite interesting - the businessy stuff at the end less so.

                                                I've never been a Serena fan, Sabatini and Hingis were always my favourites (maybe not so much for tennis ability if I'm being honest).

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                                                • Bones
                                                  Bones @Nepia last edited by

                                                  @Nepia said in Serena Goooone:

                                                  I only read because of posters on rugby forums complaining about it

                                                  You're welcome

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                                                    nostrildamus @stodders last edited by

                                                    @stodders said in Serena Goooone:

                                                    @MiketheSnow said in Serena Goooone:

                                                    @Machpants said in Serena Goooone:

                                                    Serena Williams  /  Aug 9, 2022  /  tags

                                                    Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                                                    Serena Williams's Farewell to Tennis—In Her Own Words

                                                    “It’s the hardest thing.”

                                                    And I'm spent

                                                    She's spouting that if she was a bloke she could still be playing

                                                    Fuck off

                                                    As in men are allowed to compete for longer, or that her genes are discriminating against her?

                                                    Well she'd have been pregnant less often.

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