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    Machpants
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    So the format has changed with more games. I am not sure how this works going forward with the new 'national league' thing and Japan and Fiji probably joining the top tier of that.

    worldrugby.org

    World Rugby confirms new international men’s competition to launch in 2024 | World Rugby

    World Rugby confirms new international men’s competition to launch in 2024 | World Rugby

    A new annual men’s 15s competition involving Canada, Fiji, Japan, Samoa, Tonga and USA will launch in 2024, reaffirming World Rugby’s commitment to increasing global competitiveness on the road to Rugby World Cups in Australia (2027) and USA (2031).

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    A 'new international mens competition' is a stretch ... Or, more accurately, a PR speak. It's about the 4th iteration of this tournament.

    I remember when this was first launched in about 2001. As the Pacific Rim Cup, which then became the Epson Cup after it got sponsorship naming rights. It is interesting to think back to that time, how fringe and radical is seemed that IRB were getting involved in directly funding a regional / Tier 2 competition. The pot of money the IRB had to spend from in 2001 was vastly different (smaller) than the pot now-a-days.

    The IRB/WR rightly get plenty of stick, it is deserved at a political level. But the actual development side, the career guys at that institution generally have done a good job (except for bouncing Kinsgley Jones around T3 nations as head coach/destroyer. Jobs for the boys).

    But the lack of consistency in the format of this competition is one of their failures. Could have 22 years of history and rivalry by now. Rather than "launching a new competition in 2024 ....". Although, moving USA & Canada to the ARC was actually a god move, shame the respective nations then stuffed up their relationships with the South Americans and destroyed that comp. Worst of both worlds, now.

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    Mr Fish
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    @Machpants said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    So the format has changed with more games. I am not sure how this works going forward with the new 'national league' thing and Japan and Fiji probably joining the top tier of that.

    worldrugby.org

    World Rugby confirms new international men’s competition to launch in 2024 | World Rugby

    World Rugby confirms new international men’s competition to launch in 2024 | World Rugby

    A new annual men’s 15s competition involving Canada, Fiji, Japan, Samoa, Tonga and USA will launch in 2024, reaffirming World Rugby’s commitment to increasing global competitiveness on the road to Rugby World Cups in Australia (2027) and USA (2031).

    Completely separate to the new league. Games are during the same window was the Rugby Championship. Only July/November windows are used for Nations Championship.

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    Duluth
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    Pacific Nations Cup enters new era with expanded competition

    Pacific Nations Cup enters new era with expanded competition

    The Pacific Nations Cup has had a revamp, with two new teams added and a new pool structure feeding a playoff that will crown a champion.

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    Bovidae
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    Played today.
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    antipodean
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    @Bovidae WTF? I had to go pick up dinner with about 30mins left to play and it was a two point game!

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    Mr Fish
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    @antipodean said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    @Bovidae WTF? I had to go pick up dinner with about 30mins left to play and it was a two point game!

    Samoa turned down two shots at the post to kick to the corner. They came within inches of scoring from the second lineout attack, knocking the ball on over the line.

    From Fiji's next possession they made a break down the field and Samoa's winger was yellow carded for pulling back a player. Fiji scored from the ensuing maul and that was basically the ball game.

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    Bovidae
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    @Nepia

    Here is the Samoan squad.

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    Nepia
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    @Bovidae So he's in the squad, but not playing, which is odd as you'd think Samoa would have replaced him in the squad if he wasn't available?

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    Bovidae
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    The Tongan squad also includes some players who were involved in NPC last weekend. Who knows?

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    Machpants
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    All Blacks are also released some times

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    Bovidae
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    The Inisi brothers are currently playing for Tonga against Samoa so they must have turned up after the Sunday NH game.

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    Not the highest quality match this morning in Apia Park but Samoa got the job down 43-17 over Tonga: https://rugbyisthegame.com/2024/08/30/samoa-celebrate-100-years-with-43-17-victory-over-tonga-in-pacific-nations-cup/

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    Bovidae
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    More games were played over the weekend in Tokyo.

    5th/6th place
    Tonga 30 - 17 Canada

    Semis
    Fiji 22 - 3 USA
    Japan 49 - 27 Samoa

    Both Samoa and Tonga looked to have players coming and going from their squads during the tournament.

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    Bovidae
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    3rd/4th game
    Samoa 18 - 13 USA

    Final
    Japan 17 - 41 Fiji

    Another loss for Jones.

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    Machpants
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    @Bovidae said in Pacific Nations Cup General:

    3rd/4th game
    Samoa 18 - 13 USA

    Final
    Japan 17 - 41 Fiji

    Another loss for Jones.

    He reckons he'll be back on the wagon when the ABs come to town

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    Bovidae
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    Samoa v Fiji in Rotorua.

    worldrugby.org

    Pacific Nations Cup 2025 set to deliver high-stakes action with direct qualification path to Men’s Rugby World Cup 2027 | World Rugby

    Pacific Nations Cup 2025 set to deliver high-stakes action with direct qualification path to Men’s Rugby World Cup 2027 | World Rugby

    World Rugby has officially announced the full schedule for the Pacific Nations Cup 2025 (22 August - 20 September), the second edition of the revitalised and expanded competition that is fast becoming a pillar of the international rugby calendar.

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    Bovidae
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    Some interesting names as potential debutants. No Miracle Faiʻilagi.

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    Mr Fish
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    Awful squad. Even worse than last year's. What is that, 11 players who feature in premier club competitions?

    I understand the sentimental reasons for wanting to boost the islands (thinking Samoa and Tonga here, to be specific) as much as possible, play games there, give them matches against top opposition, but I think we're now at a point where they basically have to be cut loose for the growth of the game. If they can't even get their best players together for RWC qualifying matches then what's the point? I would much rather see money invested into the developing South American, European and even Asian sides.

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    African Monkey
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    @Bovidae

    1. A Seiuli

    2. L Tolai

    3. M Alaalatoa

    4. S Slade

    5. B Nee Nee

    6. T McFarland

    7. J Mau'u

    8. I Mapu

    9. M Matavao

    10. J Umaga

    11. M Nanai

    12. D Paia'aua

    13. H Taefu

    14. T Alosio

    15. D Leuila

    16. L Schwenke

    17. T Lamositele

    18. M Fepuleai

    19. T Seu

    20. N Jones

    21. J Lam

    22. A Moleli

    23. T Tuitama

    Maybe swap Nee Nee out with Seu, Maybe Noa for Jones.

    I'm sure more guys will be added when injuries hit.

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