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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Blunders said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @DaGrubster he has the physical size but he needs to show the grunt and consistency. Lord is a bit of a rake but has the height on his side.

    Lord has a lot more than that on his side. I doubt there's a huge difference in the size of these two. There is a stark difference between their skills and athleticism though.

    Height no, size yes. Parkinson is a unit, Lord still a bit of a twig.

    Lord is no longer a twig. He was noticeably bulkier last year and he was physical to go with it. He just needs to outgrow his injury problems.

    He is bulkier, but he still has more filling out to do I think. I feel if you put him next to Retallick and Whitelock he would still look noticeably smaller.

    We've already had Retallick saying Lord is bigger.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Blunders said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @DaGrubster he has the physical size but he needs to show the grunt and consistency. Lord is a bit of a rake but has the height on his side.

    Lord has a lot more than that on his side. I doubt there's a huge difference in the size of these two. There is a stark difference between their skills and athleticism though.

    Height no, size yes. Parkinson is a unit, Lord still a bit of a twig.

    Lord is no longer a twig. He was noticeably bulkier last year and he was physical to go with it. He just needs to outgrow his injury problems.

    He is bulkier, but he still has more filling out to do I think. I feel if you put him next to Retallick and Whitelock he would still look noticeably smaller.

    We've already had Retallick saying Lord is bigger.

    Well he’s gonna sound like a cock if he says he’s smaller isn’t he ?

    Of course Retallick is gonna talk up the newbie.

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    Lord looked bulkier to me this year, commented on it as soon as I saw him. he still looks to be filling out as is not unusual for a tall kid like him. One of reasons I like about Holland, he seems to have weight etc already.

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    Holland has good no-nonsense solid joints on him too, perfect for a lock.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    Holland has good no-nonsense solid joints on him too, perfect for a lock.

    Is he actually any good at rugby?

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Blunders said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @DaGrubster he has the physical size but he needs to show the grunt and consistency. Lord is a bit of a rake but has the height on his side.

    Lord has a lot more than that on his side. I doubt there's a huge difference in the size of these two. There is a stark difference between their skills and athleticism though.

    Height no, size yes. Parkinson is a unit, Lord still a bit of a twig.

    Get him onto the Ethan Blackadder workout schedule. That’ll sort him.

    He'll get bigger and gain the ability to walk on water.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @taniwharugby Nope not taking away from that, I just think ST woulda been better - and I can't help but feel Taylor's form last year help shaped how great we think he was this year too.

    Yeah, I thought ST would be our starting hooker come the RWC and would be an absolute weapon. Definite black mark against Ryan there who seemed to have some bias towards Taylor.

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    @mariner4life I said "pretty good" not great. I should've added some context: In terms of the gameplan the ABs tried to play, they needed a big guy at 12 not David H. Although JB is suited to 12 physically and skills-wise, questions of creativity and vision (as you've mentioned) remain. Some of these areas for development are self-inflicte, BC Razor chose him at 12 but then he left for canes country and played mostly 15 and even 13 early on.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    Holland has good no-nonsense solid joints on him too, perfect for a lock.

    Is he actually any good at rugby?

    He showed potential for NZ U20 and Otago.... https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/126885745/meet-fabian-holland-the-teenage-dutch-lock-chasing-his-all-blacks-dream

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    We've already had Retallick saying Lord is bigger.
    Well he’s gonna sound like a cock if he says he’s smaller isn’t he ?

    Considering BBBR is one of the biggest locks around, no.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    We've already had Retallick saying Lord is bigger.
    Well he’s gonna sound like a cock if he says he’s smaller isn’t he ?

    Considering BBBR is one of the biggest locks around, no.

    In NZ maybe.

    Overseas guys seem bigger than he is.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Blunders said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @DaGrubster he has the physical size but he needs to show the grunt and consistency. Lord is a bit of a rake but has the height on his side.

    Lord has a lot more than that on his side. I doubt there's a huge difference in the size of these two. There is a stark difference between their skills and athleticism though.

    Height no, size yes. Parkinson is a unit, Lord still a bit of a twig.

    Lord is no longer a twig. He was noticeably bulkier last year and he was physical to go with it. He just needs to outgrow his injury problems.

    He is bulkier, but he still has more filling out to do I think. I feel if you put him next to Retallick and Whitelock he would still look noticeably smaller.

    We've already had Retallick saying Lord is bigger.

    Well he’s gonna sound like a cock if he says he’s smaller isn’t he ?

    Of course Retallick is gonna talk up the newbie.

    Yeah true of course that's it, how could I stray from such clear logic.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Blunders said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @DaGrubster he has the physical size but he needs to show the grunt and consistency. Lord is a bit of a rake but has the height on his side.

    Lord has a lot more than that on his side. I doubt there's a huge difference in the size of these two. There is a stark difference between their skills and athleticism though.

    Height no, size yes. Parkinson is a unit, Lord still a bit of a twig.

    Lord is no longer a twig. He was noticeably bulkier last year and he was physical to go with it. He just needs to outgrow his injury problems.

    He is bulkier, but he still has more filling out to do I think. I feel if you put him next to Retallick and Whitelock he would still look noticeably smaller.

    We've already had Retallick saying Lord is bigger.

    Well he’s gonna sound like a cock if he says he’s smaller isn’t he ?

    Of course Retallick is gonna talk up the newbie.

    Yeah true of course that's it, how could I stray from such clear logic.

    Lord is the 2024 version of Ethan Blackadder and you’re falling for the hype.

    I honestly expect better from you.

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    Not sure where to post this but here’s some trivia for everyone. What does the current AB captain, the current Black Caps captain, and the current Team NZ skipper have in common? (Other than the obvious of being Kiwi and skippers of their respective national teams).

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    tauranga boys

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    @ploughboy nice one, i didn’t know that until today. Pretty cool for Tauranga Boys.

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    @Canes4life were they all there together?

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    No. Cane was originally at Reporoa College and only at TBC for his final year.

    It was sealed: in early 2009, a few weeks after future Black Caps skipper Kane Williamson and future Team NZ America’s Cup-winning helmsman and Olympic gold medallist Peter Burling farewelled Tauranga Boys’, Cane and Axtens made the 90-minute drive from Reporoa to their new school.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/121447690/from-reporoa-to-the-big-city-the-jolt-that-made-sam-cane-a-star

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Blunders said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @DaGrubster he has the physical size but he needs to show the grunt and consistency. Lord is a bit of a rake but has the height on his side.

    Lord has a lot more than that on his side. I doubt there's a huge difference in the size of these two. There is a stark difference between their skills and athleticism though.

    Height no, size yes. Parkinson is a unit, Lord still a bit of a twig.

    Lord is no longer a twig. He was noticeably bulkier last year and he was physical to go with it. He just needs to outgrow his injury problems.

    He is bulkier, but he still has more filling out to do I think. I feel if you put him next to Retallick and Whitelock he would still look noticeably smaller.

    We've already had Retallick saying Lord is bigger.

    Well he’s gonna sound like a cock if he says he’s smaller isn’t he ?

    Of course Retallick is gonna talk up the newbie.

    Yeah true of course that's it, how could I stray from such clear logic.

    Lord is the 2024 version of Ethan Blackadder and you’re falling for the hype.

    I honestly expect better from you.

    What? What hype?

    But yeah another great call, after I was of the opinion Lord should be ahead of Vaai, I've now fallen for the massive hype and gone overboard with the praise by saying Lord is better than Parkinson. Holy shit I've gone mental.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Blunders said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @DaGrubster he has the physical size but he needs to show the grunt and consistency. Lord is a bit of a rake but has the height on his side.

    Lord has a lot more than that on his side. I doubt there's a huge difference in the size of these two. There is a stark difference between their skills and athleticism though.

    Height no, size yes. Parkinson is a unit, Lord still a bit of a twig.

    Lord is no longer a twig. He was noticeably bulkier last year and he was physical to go with it. He just needs to outgrow his injury problems.

    He is bulkier, but he still has more filling out to do I think. I feel if you put him next to Retallick and Whitelock he would still look noticeably smaller.

    We've already had Retallick saying Lord is bigger.

    Well he’s gonna sound like a cock if he says he’s smaller isn’t he ?

    Of course Retallick is gonna talk up the newbie.

    Yeah true of course that's it, how could I stray from such clear logic.

    Lord is the 2024 version of Ethan Blackadder and you’re falling for the hype.

    I honestly expect better from you.

    What? What hype?

    But yeah another great call, after I was of the opinion Lord should be ahead of Vaai, I've now fallen for the massive hype and gone overboard with the praise by saying Lord is better than Parkinson. Holy shit I've gone mental.

    I’m just pleased Lord got rid of that mullet.

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