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    SouthernMann
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    Replacement for Gilbert would be a loose term? Who knows what we need from a 12/13 perspective. If Tele'a doesn’t stick around Grindlay is a fairly similar player.

    Yeah I agree with @Bovidae you can't just boot guys without paying them out. Unless a new home is found for them. Hastie could be an option to be a third halfback at the Chiefs. That could assist bargaining with a potential Jacomb move.

    Lowe's recent form could also be career saving as well.

    Also, Waisake Salibu was with the team during pre-season. I wonder if they are still tracking him.

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    Jacomb would be fantastic, just the right type of player.

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    Assuming Lennox is signed next season, I'm guessing JJ feels that Tangitau, Manson, Lowe, and Nareki can cover wing. With Te Hiwi, Whaanga, Big Jim, Kneepkens, and Lennox as backup options in a pinch (for example, Hurley at fullback and Kneepkens shifting to wing). Te Hiwi covered wing this season for half a game. Depending on the mix maybe Filimone gets the final wing spot if we do have one available / don't recruit another loose forward.

    Given TUJ is off contract at the end of next year and will be 28 or 29, you'd have to assume he'll head overseas. While Telea is presently 50/50 on staying or going, I think Grindlay makes a lot of sense. Te Hiwi has yet to kick on, and there's no guarantee we keep him post-2026. If that is the case, suddenly for 2027 you're potentially looking at a Whaanga–Big Jim combo with a raw young Tayne Hervey on the bench.

    Lowe's form has been one of the biggest turn arounds I can recall in recent years of a player no one rated. Given he's our second best try scorer for the season and he clearly loves the deep south (and a long term stable contract) then I'd give him another couple of years. He's probably a great squad player and in a pinch can cover midfield too.

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    @SouthernMann

    I'm not sure us sending you Jacomb, who we do want, and getting a half back, who you don't want, makes for a very good deal for us.

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    @handa457 said in Highlanders 2025:

    Assuming Lennox is signed next season, I'm guessing JJ feels that Tangitau, Manson, Lowe, and Nareki can cover wing. With Te Hiwi, Whaanga, Big Jim, Kneepkens, and Lennox as backup options in a pinch (for example, Hurley at fullback and Kneepkens shifting to wing). Te Hiwi covered wing this season for half a game. Depending on the mix maybe Filimone gets the final wing spot if we do have one available / don't recruit another loose forward.

    Given TUJ is off contract at the end of next year and will be 28 or 29, you'd have to assume he'll head overseas. While Telea is presently 50/50 on staying or going, I think Grindlay makes a lot of sense. Te Hiwi has yet to kick on, and there's no guarantee we keep him post-2026. If that is the case, suddenly for 2027 you're potentially looking at a Whaanga–Big Jim combo with a raw young Tayne Hervey on the bench.

    Lowe's form has been one of the biggest turn arounds I can recall in recent years of a player no one rated. Given he's our second best try scorer for the season and he clearly loves the deep south (and a long term stable contract) then I'd give him another couple of years. He's probably a great squad player and in a pinch can cover midfield too.

    I'd want to leave at least one outside back spot open for the NPC. See which random guy turns up and rips it up. There will be one. I really want to see Manson show great defensive improvement during the NPC. His pace is just too handy to ignore. Whether it is Rangitutia down in Dunedin or someone out of Counties, BoP or Ta$man who knows. Interested to see what they do with Harvey next year. A lot of faith in Whaanga, and interested to see whether the Landers have been burnt by the likes of Michaels, Hastie, Te Hiwi and others by easily dishing put long-term deals.

    @gt12 McKenzie re-signed for four more years. As it stands that is Jacomb until he is 28. If he is seen as our best youngish 10, being stuck behind McKenzie until he is 28 isn't great for his career. But, fair Hastie for Jacomb isn't the best deal. Just good for NZ Rugby.

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    @gt12 they should give us ratumaituvuki kneepkens or tangitau

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    @cliff said in Highlanders 2025:

    @gt12 they should give us ratumaituvuki kneepkens or tangitau

    Your bench 10 for our best outside backs? When you have Kyren Taumoefolau, Lerory Carter, Narawa and ETS. I think you're good.

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    Jacomb is on the verge…. Watch this space

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    @SouthernMann said in Highlanders 2025:

    @cliff said in Highlanders 2025:

    @gt12 they should give us ratumaituvuki kneepkens or tangitau

    Your bench 10 for our best outside backs? When you have Kyren Taumoefolau, Lerory Carter, Narawa and ETS. I think you're good.

    Wasn't Poihipi ahead of Jacomb last year?

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    @SouthernMann think it's good players like Brodie McAlister, TK Howden & pending Jacomb have the foresight to ask about moving elsewhere for better gametime. Hypothetical if the shoe was on the other foot and e.g. Umaga Jensen saw an opportunity at Moana I would hope the landers would hear him out.

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    @SouthernMann The problem is that Trask is always injured so there is no other backup to DMac. The only way I see this happening is if Cashmore comes back to the Chiefs.

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    @Bovidae can Isaac hutchinson play 10?

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    @cliff said in Highlanders 2025:

    @Bovidae can Isaac hutchinson play 10?

    He's only really ever played wing and fullback, as far as I'm aware.

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    That Lennox, Jacomb combo for Taranaki is lethal, plus how could I forget JRK there too 👀

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    @upthelanders said in Highlanders 2025:

    That Lennox, Jacomb combo for Taranaki is lethal, plus how could I forget JRK there too 👀

    Just watch Lennox and JRK sign for the Chiefs ahead of next season.

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    @CtownCowboy said in Highlanders 2025:

    Jacomb is on the verge…. Watch this space

    How credible is this? Or is it something you saw on Family Guy?

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    I'll admit that for the competition it would be good to see Jacomb at the landers, and he fits their timeline. If they get him and make a couple of other moves (especially securing locks), I would say fans have plenty to look forward to.

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    @gt12 To be honest I think Props are more important.

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    Our depth at Prop is very poor.

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    @gt12 said in Highlanders 2025:

    I'll admit that for the competition it would be good to see Jacomb at the landers, and he fits their timeline. If they get him and make a couple of other moves (especially securing locks), I would say fans have plenty to look forward to.

    Locks we will probably just add Tengblad. Will be waiting and see as to whether Dunshea returns. Otherwise we will probably maintain Stoddart at Haig as locks as well. Who both do a decent job.

    Jacomb could be a massive plus if we can land him.

    There will be space for at least a couple of pops and a new hooker? potentially. Props are in high demand. Hard to get high level ones.

    Eight is a bit of a concern around having a primary ball carrier. A couple of wild cards could be Lucas Casey or Konrad Toleafoa. Might get a fair bit of game time for Otago if Razor selects his boy Lio-Willie.

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