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@crucial said in Another attack in London:
And here I was thinking this thread was for grownups.
Genuine question: what did you mean by "thread"?
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@baron-silas-greenback said in Another attack in London:
@crucial said in Another attack in London:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Another attack in London:
@crucial said in Another attack in London:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Another attack in London:
@crucial said in Another attack in London:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Another attack in London:
@reprobate said in Another attack in London:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Another attack in London:
Open borders are great until you run out of other people's neighbourhoods.
says the new zealander living in australia
Could you please, just once, try to actually make a relevant, logical comment. The remark was not about immigration, it was about open borders. Im pretty sure even you understand the difference.
Genuine question here. What open borders are relevant in this issue?
Refer to @No-Quarter post above.
Probably directed to wrong person sorry. @No-Quarter s post raises the question. It doesn't answer it.
Where are these 'open borders'? There are controlled borders which people cheat to get through and there are asylum laws that get exploited by a few but there aren't 'open borders' (except Northern Island)Are you deliberately playing the tard?
No. As I said, a genuine question. I would like to know what was meant by 'open borders'
@Crucial oh dear. Here is the whole post that I answered so you can unbunch your panties about context.
Ask a stupid question, get a helpful answer .
You are welcome.and here is the original post...
@crucial said in Another attack in London:
Genuine question here. What open borders are relevant in this issue?
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@crucial said in Another attack in London:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Another attack in London:
@crucial said in Another attack in London:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Another attack in London:
@crucial said in Another attack in London:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Another attack in London:
@crucial said in Another attack in London:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Another attack in London:
@reprobate said in Another attack in London:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Another attack in London:
Open borders are great until you run out of other people's neighbourhoods.
says the new zealander living in australia
Could you please, just once, try to actually make a relevant, logical comment. The remark was not about immigration, it was about open borders. Im pretty sure even you understand the difference.
Genuine question here. What open borders are relevant in this issue?
Refer to @No-Quarter post above.
Probably directed to wrong person sorry. @No-Quarter s post raises the question. It doesn't answer it.
Where are these 'open borders'? There are controlled borders which people cheat to get through and there are asylum laws that get exploited by a few but there aren't 'open borders' (except Northern Island)Are you deliberately playing the tard?
No. As I said, a genuine question. I would like to know what was meant by 'open borders'
@Crucial oh dear. Here is the whole post that I answered so you can unbunch your panties about context.
Ask a stupid question, get a helpful answer .
You are welcome.and here is the original post...
@crucial said in Another attack in London:
Genuine question here. What open borders are relevant in this issue?
Different question. I answered your second one and taught you how to google at the same time.
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@Crucial I think you've misunderstood my post a bit. I said "these ideas around open borders". I was referring to the recent push by the left for open borders, not that there are actually countries with open borders. Although Merkel did open Germany's borders to "refugees" for a while, and they''ll be paying the price for that for decades to come.
The second part of that sentence I mentioned the idea that "diversity is our strength". Which is nonsense, diversity is neither a good or a bad thing, it's just a describing word. If by diversity they mean we mix in a bunch of Islamic extremists into our society, then I'm pretty comfortable opposing diversity.
There are people with this Utopian idea of the world where we must increase immigration and open all borders and then everything will be tickety boo. My point is we are nowhere near at that point, and we need to actually tighten up immigration - particularly from parts of the world where their culture and values are at odds with ours.
It's also interesting that the diversity line is always trotted out when talking about Western countries, yet for example countries like Japan and China don't ever get a mention. It would appear diversity is only good if it means less white people.
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@no-quarter said in Another attack in London:
@Crucial I think you've misunderstood my post a bit. I said "these ideas around open borders". I was referring to the recent push by the left for open borders, not that there are actually countries with open borders. Although Merkel did open Germany's borders to "refugees" for a while, and they''ll be paying the price for that for decades to come.
The second part of that sentence I mentioned the idea that "diversity is our strength". Which is nonsense, diversity is neither a good or a bad thing, it's just a describing word. If by diversity they mean we mix in a bunch of Islamic extremists into our society, then I'm pretty comfortable opposing diversity.
There are people with this Utopian idea of the world where we must increase immigration and open all borders and then everything will be tickety boo. My point is we are nowhere near at that point, and we need to actually tighten up immigration - particularly from parts of the world where their culture and values are at odds with ours.
It's also interesting that the diversity line is always trotted out when talking about Western countries, yet for example countries like Japan and China don't ever get a mention. It would appear diversity is only good if it means less white people.
diversity as a concept is positive. it's pretty obvious that most people's concept of diversity doesn't extend to being mates with murderers, or to deliberately buying a shit stock to diversify one's portfolio. that does not mean that every implementation of diversity, or what everyone means when they say diversity, or open borders are a good thing.
as for your 'less white people' comment, you might want to reword that, as is it's just racist. care to give me an example of a white person being removed from a country because of a diversity policy? or a country saying 'black people can come in, but no whites thanks'?i know of nobody who thinks that opening all borders would be a good thing. open borders also don't really exist. there is freedom of movement within the EU, and there is freedom of movement between nz and oz, which are about the closest thing - neither of which are the problem you're talking about.
all i think you are trying to say is that you think tighter immigration controls are necessary - fucken oath they are - but why all the hyperbole? -
@reprobate said in Another attack in London:
diversity as a concept is positive.
No it isn't. Diversity is neither positive or negative. Diversity of stock might be a good thing, diversity of infections in your body might be a bad thing. Picking and choosing like you have is a nonsense.
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@baron-silas-greenback said in Another attack in London:
@reprobate said in Another attack in London:
diversity as a concept is positive.
No it isn't. Diversity is neither positive or negative. Diversity of stock might be a good thing, diversity of infections in your body might be a bad thing. Picking and choosing like you have is a nonsense.
yep, hence the 2 sentences following the one you picked out.
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So what does diversity mean in this context? Is it diversity of skin colour, diversity of culture, diversity of religion, diversity of food? Other than food I'm not sure how any of those are of vital importance to any society. Certainly diversity of skills and ideas are important, but that doesn't appear to be what this huge diversity movement is aiming at.
One thing that has always been of benefit to the former British dominions is the energy and vibrancy brought in by the new arrivals, people who made the most of the opportunities they never would have had in their home countries. It's that kind of dynamic and drive that reinvigorates a nation not the colour of someone's skin, the God they may or may not worship, or their preferences in the bedroom.
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@reprobate said in Another attack in London:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Another attack in London:
@reprobate said in Another attack in London:
diversity as a concept is positive.
No it isn't. Diversity is neither positive or negative. Diversity of stock might be a good thing, diversity of infections in your body might be a bad thing. Picking and choosing like you have is a nonsense.
yep, hence the 2 sentences following the one you picked out.
to clarify, the context of the topic is human populations.Are you trying to point out the fact you contradict yourself? Or that you didn't construct the sentence properly to convey your point. If you had said 'Diversity as a concept can be positive' instead of 'is positive' then you wouldnt have a situation where you hold 2 contradicting points at once.
But why dont you just clear it up now, which one of those statements do you actually believe?
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@reprobate said in Another attack in London:
@no-quarter said in Another attack in London:
@Crucial I think you've misunderstood my post a bit. I said "these ideas around open borders". I was referring to the recent push by the left for open borders, not that there are actually countries with open borders. Although Merkel did open Germany's borders to "refugees" for a while, and they''ll be paying the price for that for decades to come.
The second part of that sentence I mentioned the idea that "diversity is our strength". Which is nonsense, diversity is neither a good or a bad thing, it's just a describing word. If by diversity they mean we mix in a bunch of Islamic extremists into our society, then I'm pretty comfortable opposing diversity.
There are people with this Utopian idea of the world where we must increase immigration and open all borders and then everything will be tickety boo. My point is we are nowhere near at that point, and we need to actually tighten up immigration - particularly from parts of the world where their culture and values are at odds with ours.
It's also interesting that the diversity line is always trotted out when talking about Western countries, yet for example countries like Japan and China don't ever get a mention. It would appear diversity is only good if it means less white people.
diversity as a concept is positive. it's pretty obvious that most people's concept of diversity doesn't extend to being mates with murderers, or to deliberately buying a shit stock to diversify one's portfolio. that does not mean that every implementation of diversity, or what everyone means when they say diversity, or open borders are a good thing.
as for your 'less white people' comment, you might want to reword that, as is it's just racist. care to give me an example of a white person being removed from a country because of a diversity policy? or a country saying 'black people can come in, but no whites thanks'?i know of nobody who thinks that opening all borders would be a good thing. open borders also don't really exist. there is freedom of movement within the EU, and there is freedom of movement between nz and oz, which are about the closest thing - neither of which are the problem you're talking about.
all i think you are trying to say is that you think tighter immigration controls are necessary - fucken oath they are - but why all the hyperbole?Not hyperbole, you'd have to be living under a rock to not see the push for increased immigration and open borders coming from the left. Amazingly plenty of people thought Germany opening their borders was a great thing.
And although my last sentence was deliberately provocative, it was not racist (what the hell is your definition of racist?). What is racist is the multitude of anti-white articles that are being published across a wide number of media and social media sites. Far too many to list, and they do so under the premise of diversity.
To @Rancid-Schnitzel's point, much of the argument for diversity centres around diversity of race. It's complete fucking nonsense, and is in itself racist as you have to start implementing policies based on race to achieve this "diversity". Which also goes against the idea that skin colour doesn't mean a God damn thing.
But my biggest problem with all of this talk about race under the premise of diversity is that it leads to tribalism. Which we are already seeing with Antifa and the alt-right clashing. The whole concept is so toxic.
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@reprobate said in Another attack in London:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Another attack in London:
@reprobate said in Another attack in London:
diversity as a concept is positive.
No it isn't. Diversity is neither positive or negative. Diversity of stock might be a good thing, diversity of infections in your body might be a bad thing. Picking and choosing like you have is a nonsense.
yep, hence the 2 sentences following the one you picked out.
to clarify, the context of the topic is human populations.Human populations.. so given the large number of people from North Africa and the Middle East that believe homosexuality should be a punishable crime, do you think it would be good to have them in our society to help with the "diversity" problem we have?
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@no-quarter said in Another attack in London:
@reprobate said in Another attack in London:
@baron-silas-greenback said in Another attack in London:
@reprobate said in Another attack in London:
diversity as a concept is positive.
No it isn't. Diversity is neither positive or negative. Diversity of stock might be a good thing, diversity of infections in your body might be a bad thing. Picking and choosing like you have is a nonsense.
yep, hence the 2 sentences following the one you picked out.
to clarify, the context of the topic is human populations.Human populations.. so given the large number of people from North Africa and the Middle East that believe homosexuality should be a punishable crime, do you think it would be good to have them in our society to help with the "diversity" problem we have?
i never said there was a diversity problem. and no, i don't think that is a good idea either.
let me know if you would like me to confirm any other things i don't think for you.
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