30 Day Paleo Challenge
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<div style="background-color:transparent;margin:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;">Here is where I first found out about oats, guess this is the info that stuck in my head.</div>
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<div style="background-color:transparent;margin:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;"><em>You’ve heard it before: oatmeal reduces cholesterol. Oatmeal producers have obtained permission from the FDA to use a cholesterol-reducing claim. The American Heart Association provides a (paid) endorsement of Quaker Oats.</em></div>
<p style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;"><em>I’ve lost count of the times I’ve asked someone whether they ate a healthy breakfast and the answer was “Sure. I had oatmeal.â€</em></p>
<p style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;"><em>Is this true? Is oatmeal heart healthy because it reduces LDL cholesterol?</em></p>
<p style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;"><em>I don’t think so. Try this: Have a serving of slow-cooked (e.g., steel-cut, Irish, etc.) oatmeal. Most people will consume oatmeal with skim or 1% milk and some dried or fresh fruit. Wait an hour, then check your blood sugar.</em></p>
<p style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;"><em>If you are not diabetic and have a fasting blood sugar in the “normal†range (<100 mg/dl), you will typically have a 1-hour blood glucose of 150-180 mg/dl–very high. If you have mildly increased fasting blood sugars between 100 and 126 mg/dl, postprandial (after-eating) blood sugars will easily exceed 180 mg/dl. If you have diabetes, hold onto your hat because, even if you take medications, blood sugar one hour after oatmeal will usually be between 200 and 300 mg/dl.</em></p>
<p style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;"><em>This is because oatmeal is converted rapidly to sugar, and a lot of it. Even if you were to repeat the experiment with no dried or fresh fruit, you will still witness high blood sugars in these ranges. Do like some people and pile on the raisins, dried cranberries, or brown sugar, and you will see blood sugars go even higher.</em></p>
<p style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;"><em>Blood sugars this high, experienced repetitively, will damage the delicate insulin-producing beta cells of your pancreas (glucose toxicity). It also glycates proteins of the eyes and vascular walls. The blood glucose effects of oatmeal really don’t differ much from a large Snickers bar or bowl of jelly beans.</em></p>
<p style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;"><em>If you are like most people, you too will show high blood sugars after oatmeal. It’s easy to find out . . . check your postprandial blood sugar.</em></p>
<p style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;"><em>In past, I recommended oat products, specifically oat bran, to reduce LDL, especially small LDL. I’ve changed my mind: I now no longer recommend any oat product due to its blood sugar-increasing effects.</em></p>
<p style="background-color:transparent;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;"><em>Better choices: eggs, ground flaxseed as a hot cereal, cheese (the one dairy product that does not excessively trigger insulin), raw nuts, salads, leftovers from last evening’s dinner.</em></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;">- See more at: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://blog.trackyourplaque.com/2010/03/oatmeal-good-or-bad.html#sthash.6yjI3OmE.dpuf'>http://blog.trackyourplaque.com/2010/03/oatmeal-good-or-bad.html#sthash.6yjI3OmE.dpuf</a></span></p> -
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<p>There is way too much effort and ingredients going into that cottage pie! I should also have mentioned I hating cooking as well. :)</p>
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<p>I like cauliflower on it's own and don't really need a rice or potato replacement TBH. If there's a cauliflower chocolate replacement I'll be all over it like white on cauliflower.</p>
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<p>Yeah, it is a bit of work. Next time I make it I'm planning on cutting it down. Surely all those ingredients can't be necessary. That's something I find quite often, that a lot of Paleo alternatives contain a lot of obscure ingredients.</p> -
<p>Very interesting reading mate - cheers for the link. And as I read it I'm eat my oats, whey and 2 eggs as per usual.</p>
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<p>Would have thought that it would be more due to the raisins, brown sugar etc that people add but apparently not. And well if its on the internet it must be true.</p> -
<p>this should help you out Nepia ;)</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/12-healthy-foods-and-drinks-that-can-make-you-fat?page=4'>http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/12-healthy-foods-and-drinks-that-can-make-you-fat?page=4</a></p> -
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<p>Could I elbow my way into this thread for some advice (hopefully you don't mind Kirwan).</p>
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<p>I'm pretty good with meals (I can eat just veges and meat stir fry every day) but can you blokes recommend 'snacks' that will fight off my craving for sugar? I'm a sugar junkie, as long as it's processed (for example chocolate and lollies rather than fruits), and every time I try to eat better I always wind up back on the sugars (obviously I have very little will power ;)) so really need something to eat as a replacement snack. I have nuts and cold meats quite often but find they don't always work.</p>
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<p>Moosh - I eat eggs quite often but find they make me feel hungry full - I'm not sure how I explain that, I feel full in the gut but it doesn't stop hunger cravings I guess.</p>
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<p>Sometimes when you feel hungry you are actually thirsty. I weaned myself off of snacking by drinking more water, rule of thumb is to have about 2 litres per day - more if you exercise.</p>
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<p>Start with that would be my advice, a big glass of water will fill up your stomach too. Then find vegetables you like to snack on, and eat as much of them as you like. If you get carbs from veges you'll feel fuller for longer, the protein won't fill you up for long.</p> -
<p>Ok, so how this challenge works is you take measurements (and photos, eek) before you start, and do a baseline WOD. You then compare these metrics at the end of the challenge. Weight is one of the metrics, but well down on the list in terms of importance.</p>
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<p>I'm going to use this thread as motivation, so will post all but the photos up here.</p>
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<p>Did the Baseline WOD last night;</p>
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<p>For Time (Running clock, but record the Row and Total time) > 500m Row, 40 Squats, 30 Situps, 20 Hand Release Push Ups, 10 Pullups (any method)</p>
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<p>Hit 1.44m for the Row and 5:18 in Total. Struggled on the squats after the row and situps. Heaps of improvement to be had there, will aim to get it under 4.30. Christ my mouth was dry after that. Best time I saw from the others was 3.59, but a guy on my team is expecting to get 3.30, he can do the non row part in 1.30min.</p> -
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I gave up oats for breakfast , most days I dont even eat breakfast, I have my first meal at 11 am. I'm not at all hungry when I wake up. It's nice not being on the carb roller coaster.[/quote]
Don't really get your point. If you don't wake up hungry, then well done you for training yourself into that state of being. I wake up with a need to eat something because my opportunities are limited throughout the day, and generally I've done some form of physical exercise after dinner at night. I'm not rushing to the candy bar an hour later just because I eat oats. To even suggest that is simply ridiculous and the kind of one-size-fits-all thinking that bogus diet plans are based on.As for the article - all quite interesting. Well aware of the effect grains and whatnot. Blood sugar goes up and down because it fucking does.
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<p>Don't really get your point. If you don't wake up hungry, then well done you for training yourself into that state of being. I wake up with a need to eat something because my opportunities are limited throughout the day, and generally I've done some form of physical exercise after dinner at night. I'm not rushing to the candy bar an hour later just because I eat oats. To even suggest that is simply ridiculous and the kind of one-size-fits-all thinking that bogus diet plans are based on. As for the article - all quite interesting. Well aware of the effect grains and whatnot. Blood sugar goes up and down because it fucking does.</p>
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<p>Pretty bad for your metabolism to skip breakfast as well, it's basically fasting if you assume dinner at 6-8pm and nothing else for over 12 hours. </p>
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<p>My experience with Oats is that I wasn't hungry to at least 1pm for a 7-30-8am breakfast. </p> -
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<p>Pretty bad for your metabolism to skip breakfast as well, it's basically fasting if you assume dinner at 6-8pm and nothing else for over 12 hours. </p>
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<p>Pretty old school way thinking that.</p>
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<p>Meal timing has been proven to be pretty much irrelevant.</p>
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<p>Whether you do 6 small meals a day / eating every 3 hours (whilst awake) or do say intermittent fasting and only eat during a 6-8 hour period has very limited effect on body composition (more important though for physical performance). Total caloric intake vs expenditure is what really matters.</p> -
<p>Yeah I have read a few things that sit on either side of the argument around the need for breakfast or being ok to skip it.</p>
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<p>Some days I dont have breakfast if I dont feel hungry, some mornings I simply must... :think: neither of these days seem to impact me at work or if I am exercising that evening.</p> -
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<p>Pretty old school way thinking that.</p>
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<p>Meal timing has been proven to be pretty much irrelevant.</p>
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<p>Whether you do 6 small meals a day / eating every 3 hours (whilst awake) or do say intermittent fasting and only eat during a 6-8 hour period has very limited effect on body composition (more important though for physical performance). Total caloric intake vs expenditure is what really matters.</p>
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<p>Good to know. With this challenge thing, they only mention having four meals a day - nothing about timings of meals. So will keep that in mind.</p> -
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<p>If you aren't getting proper rest it can fuck the whole thing as well.<br><br>
Basically it comes down to what works for you</p>
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<p>Yep, sleep is one of the things I earn points for. I easily get 7-8 hours every day.</p> -
<p>My wife sets her alarm for 0630 but never gets up at that time. She basically uses it to get ready for 7AM - not hitting the snooze or anything. Just to put herself in that semi-wakeful state that all the sciencey people say is the worst thing you can do for yourself.</p>
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<p>My wife sets her alarm for 0630 but never gets up at that time. She basically uses it to get ready for 7AM - not hitting the snooze or anything. Just to put herself in that semi-wakeful state that all the sciencey people say is the worst thing you can do for yourself.</p>
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<p>Wow!! That would give me the two-bob-bits!!</p>
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<p>I set my alarm for 6 and I'm up at 6.</p> -
<p>fark I dont even use an alarm!!</p>
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<p>I just wake between 6.30 and 7.10 everyday, although if tired and know I need to get up I will use it, although because I have set it, I will wake several times in the night because I am conscious of needing to wake up on time; if I sleep until 8 that is an awesome sleep in!</p>
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<p>I get between 7-8 hours every night; I would rarely be able to get to sleep before 10, but equally rare do I stay up past midnight either... :)</p>