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[quote name='Duluth' timestamp='1359883188' post='341497']<br />
Thats super. I do real pull ups too. <br />
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Also, my sample size is 5 people. True, it's still not a big enough sample. However the point still stands if you are doing a cheat variation you should be clear about it. My anecdotal experience is that the crossfitters think it's fine to leave off kipping when describing the movement. That's quite confusing. It's a different exercise.<br />
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Well it's clear you are easily confused, you have demonstrated that much. It must be very annoying when people don't specify if its a ring or bar muscle up huh. <br />
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Enough of your condescending posts, you are getting close to the line. <br />
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[quote name='Kirwan' timestamp='1359883860' post='341499']<br />
Well it's clear you are easily confused, you have demonstrated that much. It must be very annoying when people don't specify if its a ring or bar muscle up huh.<br />
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Enough of your condescending posts, you are getting close to the line.<br />
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Oh calm down. You are the one getting into name calling<br />
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What I'm saying is hardly controversial. When you do a cheat variation of an exercise you should be clear about that. My experience with crossfitters is that they are happy to omit the 'kipping' word. Hardly a major crime but at the same time it is very inaccurate<br />
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I think maybe you are taking the 'cheating' word personally. It is the correct term for movements like this. My favourite cheat to extend pull up sets is the negative which is an even bigger cheat (you jump to the bar and lower yourself slowly) -
[quote name='Duluth' timestamp='1359884481' post='341500']<br />
Oh calm down. You are the one getting into name calling<br />
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What I'm saying is hardly controversial. When you do a cheat variation of an exercise you should be clear about that. My experience with crossfitters is that they are happy to omit the 'kipping' word. Hardly a major crime but at the same time it is very inaccurate<br />
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I think maybe you are taking the 'cheating' word personally. It is the correct term for movements like this. My favourite cheat to extend pull up sets is the negative which is an even bigger cheat[b] (you jump to the bar and lower yourself slowly)[/b]<br />
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THat's not cheating that's just what pussies who can't do them do <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eusa_whistle.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whistle:' /> -
[quote name='MN5' timestamp='1359920999' post='341555']<br />
THat's not cheating that's just what pussies who can't do them do <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/eusa_whistle.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':whistle:' /><br />
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Haha.. as a set extender so you've already done as many real reps as you can do. A few 8 sec negatives at the end tears your lats up -
[quote name='Duluth' timestamp='1359925586' post='341570']<br />
Haha.. as a set extender so you've already done as many real reps as you can do. A few 8 sec negatives at the end tears your lats up<br />
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Yeah true, after chins sometimes I do a few flexed arm hangs, a mere 10-15 seconds of those fuck your guns up good and proper. -
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Milk" data-cid="427346" data-time="1399493366">
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<p>The video at the beginning of the thread had a similar soundtrack.</p>
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<p>It was a relief to see all the people in the background struggling with their pullups, just like I do.</p>
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<p>Luckily I haven't done Fran yet. Looks awful.</p>
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<p>Yep, it really sucks. It's one of those ones that hurts when you stop, forearms and lungs. People refer to Fran Cough a lot as well, and it's a puke friendly workout. It's a terrible, terrible combination. </p>
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<p>I need to get me some of those elastic cords to assist me....still suck at pull ups!</p>
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<p>I did Fran a few times now (didn't know it had a name) at home, and very close to vomiting.</p> -
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<p>Yep, it really sucks. It's one of those ones that hurts when you stop, forearms and lungs. People refer to Fran Cough a lot as well, and it's a puke friendly workout. It's a terrible, terrible combination. </p>
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<p>The first Crossfit workout.</p>
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<p>It was the first workout you did? AND you went back!?</p>
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<p>TR- yeah I'm stuck on the bands too... embarassing :)</p> -
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<p>It was the first workout you did? AND you went back!?</p>
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<p>TR- yeah I'm stuck on the bands too... embarassing :)</p>
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<p>No, it's the first workout Greg Classman ("Coach") designed. Here's a good video about it;</p>
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<p>I'm not sure what my firs workout was, but because I record everything I might be able to work it out.</p> -
<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote' data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="427367" data-time="1399501580"><p>I need to get me some of those elastic cords to assist me....still suck at pull ups!<br />
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I did Fran a few times now (didn't know it had a name) at home, and very close to vomiting.</p></blockquote>
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Do negatives - will help a lot. Don't be afraid to cheat into the last couple of reps too.<br />
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The main thing, like pushups, is doing them regularly. I can build up to a starting set of 7 or 8 if I'm doing them a couple of times a week, but take a week off and I'm back to 4-5 -
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<p>Edit: In truth, I know nothing about Fran, doubt I could complete the workout under 10 minutes, so will keep my sarcasm to myself and butt out of this thread. Carry on, gents.</p>
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<p>Can only assume that you made some sort of comment on pullups / kipping etc?</p>
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Its a pretty common criticism of Crossfit. We do different types of pullups to achieve different goals. <br /><br />We use strict and weighted strict pull ups to build strength. We use kipping and butterfly pull ups to get our chins over the bar. <br /><br />The kip allows for you that far more times (my ratio of strict to kipping is 10/25). It would take a long time to do 45 strict, and I wouldn't be able to maintain any intensity. <br /><br />Its the combination of movements that improves the fitness and all that, so standing around looking the bars isn't helping me. <br /><br />The kip also translates directly into the Oly lifts with the hip thrust. <br /><br />Also, kipping pull ups are still hard, its not uncommon to have to a 100 of the things in a WOD. It hurts.