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for some reason my earlier post didn't - post redoing it as some it is relevant. The link I posted earlier also has graphs on quality of life in your elder years.
@siam The average life expectancy is over 50 if you survive past 5 is a more precise way point making your point.
Overall life expectancy at birth was less than 50 in much of Africa and Asia as recently as 1950. In fact even if you were to make it to 10 you could only expect to make it to 55 in China if you were born in 1950.
> Given that the world was a much more challenging environment for the hunter gatherers I don't think it's far fetched to believe their life expectancy would have been less than a Chinaman born 58 years ago.
There is also the wealth factor to consider (& still is today). Any reading of history confirms that plenty of patrician Roman's lived into their 80's but the same wouldn't have been true for a prole.
I wonder about that. Once you get past infancy, it's only really nature that'll fuck you up. Get a shelter sorted, hang out where there's food, know about predators and spend your days in your community. Getting knocked on the head when you're too slow to keep up though....
As opposed to cultural and politically driven famines and forced migration and settlements.Way over- simplification I know but strip away modern conveniences and we're still a dominant species taking a place in the world, and did so for thousands of years compared to 100 odd years of modernity.
Just a thought and I'm swayed by some up country Thai folks I've known who'd hardly bat an eyelid if the electricity disappeared.
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Oh and yeah I have visited care hospitals and effectively there is no quality of life - not because of the facilities or nursing care but the mental incapacity of the inmates. All very well living longer but if you spend all your days screaming for your mummy - yeah nah
Yep, the almost vegetative state of the residents is a daunting sight.
Pills, food, adult diapers, sleep, sit in front of a tv with no sound, stare into space for hours at a time, rinse and repeat day after day.Staff are amazing in general though
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Is Ardern pro disease?
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12159454
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@paekakboyz said in Woo:
@jegga ?? sounds like bubs isn't going due to the risk?
You get free polio vaccinations in NZ
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ah, thanks Haven't heard anything about their stance on vaccinations. But if they were anti I think someone would have latched on to that by now though.
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12175429
Brilliant. If it were up to me, I kick any non-vaxxers the fuck out of my kids' school
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What would anti-vaxxers do if we developed a vaccine for autism?
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@antipodean said in Woo:
What would anti-vaxxers do if we developed a vaccine for autism?
Their heads would explode. How about vaccines for cancer? Not just for HPV. At what point do these fucktards come back to the human race and let modern medicine do it's thing?
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@antipodean see my post a several posts prior to this one...about peoples hatred for Autistic people being so strong they'd rather a sick or dead child!
We have had a few cases of Meningitis up this way recently and they are vaccinating kids aged 0-5 and 12-18 urgently.
Took TR Jnr there the first chance I got last week! He did wake up on Saturday morning and started vomiting and his shoulder was a bit red and swollen, however it would appear the vomiting was purely coincidental and the redness and swelling was to be expected.but also went away
He got over the vomiting pretty quick and has survived.
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I've been jabbed with all sorts of vaccines thanks to the Army. There's all the standard ones and then there's the "you're going here so we've got this".
There are the side benefits of course. For example I'm now immune to dengue fever - all four strains. Now that was unpleasant.
I just don't understand the mentality that results in ignoring the expertise of people that study for a decade just to get into their chosen field, billions of dollars annually on development and testing and the clear historical benefit. It must qualify as a mental illness.
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@antipodean @jegga posted an article on the effects social media has had on spreading disinformation like anti-vax stuff. Certainly made some interesting points.
Here it is: https://thespinoff.co.nz/media/09-12-2018/facebook-not-fake-news-is-whats-destroying-us/
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Why pro disease people are fluffybunnies reason #653287
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How about this story for Woo gone wrong.
Thanks Oprah & the Clintons for making this dude famous
A celebrity faith healer - John of God - sold babies for thousands as he impregnated teenage slaves he kept at his rural gem mines and farms in Brazil, an activist claims.
Joao Teixeira de Faria, 77, was arrested on December 17 on the outskirts of Abadiania, in rural Brazil on rape charges.
He became a wanted man after a bombshell late night chat show on Brazil's Globo TV network aired accusations from ten women of abuse at his Casa de Dom Inacio de Loyola in Abadiania.
Now the activist Sabrina Bittencourt - whose investigations lead to his arrest - claims he operated a sick 'farming' operation which exported babies on the black market.**edit.. and the woman who exposed this has mysteriously suicided over it.